Eh, it’s the same on the Android side of the fence. There are big and small features that Google has been comically slow to crib from iOS.
I’ve definitely said “fucking finally” to things like overflow scrolling animations, and the “wild” idea that users should get 5+ of major OS releases.
Eh, it’s the same on the Android side of the fence. There are big and small features that Google has been comically slow to crib from iOS.
I’ve definitely said “fucking finally” to things like overflow scrolling animations,
Those things like overflow scrolling, keyboard peak, etc… were only held back because Apple would patent it prevent it from being put into Android and would file frivolous lawsuits against other phone manufacturers to try and get them not to use them, even when some android variants already had it built in before apple patented it in the first place. (I still facepalm at apple trying to sue others over a rounded rectangle shaped phone)
And those patents lawsuits only stopped because other phone companies called bullshit and started threatening apple with their own patents.
and the “wild” idea that users should get 5+ of major OS releases.
TL;DR on this point: not much of an issue anymore.
This isn’t an android/iOS thing, it’s a manufacturer thing. If a chip isn’t supported by it’s manufacturer, then no software on it can be supported. Different manufacturers had different support windows, but Qualcomm became notorious for making chips, then only supporting them for 2 years so they could sell a new “supported” one (and watch the money roll in). Once they saw other the larger players getting pissed off and poking around with the idea of making their own chips, Qualcomm quickly decided that they could support their chips for longer. Now they have to since both Google and Samsung have made public promises for 5-7 year support cycles. Of course, that hasn’t stopped other phones from already reaching 7 years of official support before. (A notable example being Fairphone 2 who used a Qualcomm chip while they were still in their shitty behaviour phase and managed to support it for 7 years, 2 years Qualcomm support then 5 years of their own support despite Qualcomm.)
Also, when Google was pissed at Qualcomm they decided to start modularising their OS and pulling chunks out of it out of needing direct hardware support. This means that even if chip support were to stop, it would only affect the background / lowest-level-invisible-to-the-user parts of the OS, and all the user visible parts of the OS could be updated independently (starting with Project Treble, and going all out with Project Mainline). This basically means that entire chunks of the OS can be updated the same way an app can be, early 2010 Qualcomm companies be damned.
This also has the weird thing of android not really being a “version” per se, one phone might have different components of Android 10/11/12/13/14/etc… running at the same time. The components themselves have their own versions.
Android still doesn’t have shake-to-undo. I use iOS and Android and switch between them regularly for work, and every time I typo something or accidentally delete a bunch of text on Android, it’s incredibly jarring to not have the undo capability.
Who actually uses those features on a phone? Just buy an actual camera, even with those features, a smartphone camera probably won’t film at an expected quality. I acknowledge fanboyism is not a good thing, but this is not an Android fanboy thing. These are very basic features that should have already been implemented on a device with a marketshare this large.
No these are not basic features, most users don’t really care about it. You don’t think Apple does research? How can Apple have such an huge market share if those things are things that people are desperate for like you act? And no, I can’t take a full camera on my backpack trips, every ounce counts. Plenty of people shoot with their phone, don’t act like you don’t know this.
Yes, plenty of people that don’t really need high quality Dolby Vision HDR pictures shoot with their phone. It is not a lie to say that they’re really late on a lot of things, such as sideloading (they’re still trying to push this back lol), simple customization options, ability to use a different web browser than Safari and much more. You sound like the fanboy here.
Also yes, being able to move applications anywhere you want on your home screen is a basic feature. Most people might not care about it, but it is still a basic feature.
Listen, Android isn’t any better than iOS overall, but to pretend that this is something that matters to anything but edge cases on rare occasions is just lying.
Yeah my phone is literally unusable without the “feature” to place icons somewhere else 😂
If you don’t k ow how many users shoot videos with their phones, you might want to look up the stats. You are talking about stuff you don’t know anything about.
Only took them 18 major version releases. Maybe one day we’ll get to choose an alarm snooze timer than isn’t 9 minutes something.
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SERIOUSLY. I’m currently stuck with an iPhone and was so annoyed when I found out you just couldn’t define the snooze duration. Like, what?
Eh, it’s the same on the Android side of the fence. There are big and small features that Google has been comically slow to crib from iOS.
I’ve definitely said “fucking finally” to things like overflow scrolling animations, and the “wild” idea that users should get 5+ of major OS releases.
Those things like overflow scrolling, keyboard peak, etc… were only held back because Apple would patent it prevent it from being put into Android and would file frivolous lawsuits against other phone manufacturers to try and get them not to use them, even when some android variants already had it built in before apple patented it in the first place. (I still facepalm at apple trying to sue others over a rounded rectangle shaped phone)
And those patents lawsuits only stopped because other phone companies called bullshit and started threatening apple with their own patents.
TL;DR on this point: not much of an issue anymore.
This isn’t an android/iOS thing, it’s a manufacturer thing. If a chip isn’t supported by it’s manufacturer, then no software on it can be supported. Different manufacturers had different support windows, but Qualcomm became notorious for making chips, then only supporting them for 2 years so they could sell a new “supported” one (and watch the money roll in). Once they saw other the larger players getting pissed off and poking around with the idea of making their own chips, Qualcomm quickly decided that they could support their chips for longer. Now they have to since both Google and Samsung have made public promises for 5-7 year support cycles. Of course, that hasn’t stopped other phones from already reaching 7 years of official support before. (A notable example being Fairphone 2 who used a Qualcomm chip while they were still in their shitty behaviour phase and managed to support it for 7 years, 2 years Qualcomm support then 5 years of their own support despite Qualcomm.)
Also, when Google was pissed at Qualcomm they decided to start modularising their OS and pulling chunks out of it out of needing direct hardware support. This means that even if chip support were to stop, it would only affect the background / lowest-level-invisible-to-the-user parts of the OS, and all the user visible parts of the OS could be updated independently (starting with Project Treble, and going all out with Project Mainline). This basically means that entire chunks of the OS can be updated the same way an app can be, early 2010 Qualcomm companies be damned.
This also has the weird thing of android not really being a “version” per se, one phone might have different components of Android 10/11/12/13/14/etc… running at the same time. The components themselves have their own versions.
Android still doesn’t have shake-to-undo. I use iOS and Android and switch between them regularly for work, and every time I typo something or accidentally delete a bunch of text on Android, it’s incredibly jarring to not have the undo capability.
I use Gboard as a keyboard and it’s got an undo button. Maybe try that (your mileage may vary)
How long did it android manufacturers take to implement features that actually matter, like filming in Dolby Vision / HDR? Fanboyism is not cool.
Who actually uses those features on a phone? Just buy an actual camera, even with those features, a smartphone camera probably won’t film at an expected quality. I acknowledge fanboyism is not a good thing, but this is not an Android fanboy thing. These are very basic features that should have already been implemented on a device with a marketshare this large.
No these are not basic features, most users don’t really care about it. You don’t think Apple does research? How can Apple have such an huge market share if those things are things that people are desperate for like you act? And no, I can’t take a full camera on my backpack trips, every ounce counts. Plenty of people shoot with their phone, don’t act like you don’t know this.
Yes, plenty of people that don’t really need high quality Dolby Vision HDR pictures shoot with their phone. It is not a lie to say that they’re really late on a lot of things, such as sideloading (they’re still trying to push this back lol), simple customization options, ability to use a different web browser than Safari and much more. You sound like the fanboy here.
Also yes, being able to move applications anywhere you want on your home screen is a basic feature. Most people might not care about it, but it is still a basic feature.
Listen, Android isn’t any better than iOS overall, but to pretend that this is something that matters to anything but edge cases on rare occasions is just lying.
IDK man, HDR is a pretty big deal for me…
That makes you an edge case.
Yeah my phone is literally unusable without the “feature” to place icons somewhere else 😂
If you don’t k ow how many users shoot videos with their phones, you might want to look up the stats. You are talking about stuff you don’t know anything about.