• @[email protected]
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      199 months ago

      Not anymore with sidewalk and other similar corporate networks bypassing any requirement for the consumer to connect the TV to wifi

      • @Bluefruit
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        https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/everything-you-need-to-know-about-amazon-sidewalk

        How much of my internet bandwidth does Amazon Sidewalk require?

        “Very little. Sidewalk’s connectivity is distinct from your home Wi-Fi. If you choose, however, to enable Sidewalk on your eligible Bridge devices, those devices would use a small amount of internet bandwidth.”

        This sounds like it still needs your internet to work unless I’m missing something.

        • @[email protected]
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          119 months ago

          The connection isn’t for you. It’s so the TV can fingerprint the content you watch, and then send that utilization data back to the company.

          You don’t need much bandwidth to do this.

          So with no wifi connection, and a blueray player, if you play Star Wars, they can fingerprint a few frames, send them back to Roku or whoever over sidewalk via your neighbors ring doorbell, and know you played star wars… Even with your completely offline setup

          • @Bluefruit
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            Ah i see, so because its connected to other devices in the sidewalk network, if my neighbor has it hooked up to wifi and mine isnt, it still can connect to the internet.

            Yea that sucks. I hate that. I have “smart” TV that i never connected to my wifi cause i use a pc for streaming.

            Next thing yknow theres gonna be lte modems in these things that they pay to keep on just to spy on us ffs man.

        • @[email protected]
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          If you don’t have a sidewalk bridge but your neighbour half a mile away has one, your device will connect to your neighbour’s bridge and send data to Amazon without you knowing

          • Clegko
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            Uhhh. No.

              • KillingTimeItself
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                19 months ago

                correct me if im wrong, but a device trying to connect to the network in order to analytics. Which can’t, which then defaults to a SECONDARY BACKUP mechanism, just to transmit ANALYTICS. Is basically just spying, and you cannot convince me otherwise.

                • @[email protected]
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                  19 months ago

                  I… Well I might try but only if it were funny. I agree. But its not effectively (and I don’t think technically) illegal.

                  • KillingTimeItself
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                    19 months ago

                    the fact that it isn’t illegal is astonishing to me.

                    or at least incredibly frowned upon.

      • @RampantParanoia2365
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        19 months ago

        Do these show up as networks on devices, or are they kind of hidden? I’ve looked before and never seen any open wifi around my house, but I am near a mall and lots of shopping.

        • @[email protected]
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          29 months ago

          They do not use wifi. They use BLE over short range, or LoRa or FSK on 900mhz over long distances. If you wanted to see them you’d probably need a scanner built specifically to find them but idk if anyone has made one.

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      Maybe you’d disable it on the settings, but it remains enabled anyways. Then it would detect an open wifi and connect autimatically.

      Or maybe the software that comes with it is buggy as hell your HDMI framerate and resolution became affected.

      • @Hule
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        79 months ago

        A wifi antenna should be easy to find.

        If you cut it, could it lead to an error, or just weaken the signal?

          • @[email protected]
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            119 months ago

            If you wrap the TV in tinfoil, it’ll be a faraday cage and block all WiFi

            I just keep my TV embedded in a block of lead.

          • @Hule
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            29 months ago

            I mean I wouldn’t, but it’s an idea!

          • @[email protected]
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            19 months ago

            Seriously considering decorating my next apartment like this. CNC engraved thin sheets of stainless steel, with a ground wire plugged in somewhere. Possibly the plumbing.

      • @RampantParanoia2365
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        69 months ago

        Ok, well personally, I’ve never seen an open network near my house, so if I cared that much, it would work for mine.

      • @[email protected]
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        59 months ago

        You really shouldn’t run an open wifi at your home. Or do you carry your TV to Starbuck’s or something?

          • @[email protected]
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            79 months ago

            Just in a country where open wifi without landing pages don’t exist. Apologies, didn’t think about actual open, public wifi.