• @FreakinSteve
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    110 months ago

    If they vote Republican, they condone the violence associated with it. There is no separation between the two.

    • @OccamsRazer
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      -110 months ago

      Exactly what violence are you referring to?

      • @FreakinSteve
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        310 months ago

        All of it. State violence against the poor and minority groups; corporate violence against the wage-earner; radicalized lone wolf violence against the public.

        • @OccamsRazer
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          -110 months ago

          And you place the blame for all of that on Republicans? What a good little for soldier you are.

          • @FreakinSteve
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            210 months ago

            Why yes…yes I do. The Republican Party is the home of conservatism now. Conservatism’s goal is to destroy our country and create an oligarchy. This is done through both active and passive violence.

            • @OccamsRazer
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              010 months ago

              The goal of any conservative movement is to resist change. It’s in the name, and it’s the nature of people who are conservative. There’s nothing about “destroy” or “create an oligarchy” in it. Conservative is closer to the opposite of those. Also, there is very little active violence coming from conservatives, especially compared to progressive movements, and passive violence is a vague term that means whatever you want it to mean, according to your favorite niche cultural movement.

              I feel like you are just throwing around terms without even understanding them or applying any critical thought to them.

              • @FreakinSteve
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                10 months ago

                Beginning with Reagan declaring war on higher education by forcing debt to be incurred by it so that only upper classes could be educated and protect their wealth up to now; " think tanks" pushing public policy to ONLY serve the wealthiest while shitting all over the middle and lower class; to using religion to control women and doom them to being nothing more than incubators; to militarizing the police and cheering for every murder they committed, ALL THE VIOLENCE IS FROM THE RIGHT. NONE AT ALL IS FROM THE LEFT. NONE. ZERO. ZILCH.

                And now I know that you are part of the fascist brigade here.

                • @OccamsRazer
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                  110 months ago

                  Perhaps you could define some terms for me, starting with “violence”, but also “fascist” and “brigade”, because it’s almost like you think violence is any policy or speech you don’t like, and a fascist is anyone who disagrees with your politics. It’s hard to have a discussion when the terms are so subjective, and the condition for civil discourse is that I agree with you.

                  • @FreakinSteve
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                    10 months ago

                    A classic radical fascist tactic is to claim that the other thinks fascism is “anything you don’t agree with”. Wrong. It has specific meanings demonstrated by specific policy positions.

                    “Violence” is anything that violates the rights of others. “States’ rights” is an excuse to allow violence through the tyranny of the minority, and us used to violate the rights of others. If the Constitution federallt protects the rights of an individual, “states’ rights” seeks to overrule those protections