• @cmac
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    What’s actually the answer though? I would think A, D, C in that order is probably best, but I’m guessing they just want C?

    • @dual_sport_dork
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      The most lawyer friendly answer is probably C.

      I am not a doctor, but I do know how to handle firearms, so I would also unload and ensure that the gun is not in a condition to fire. This would probably dock me points for diluting potential evidence or some such horseshit, but it’d still be the right thing to do. Provided you knew what you were doing.

      • @Glowstick
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        Doing anything to the gun is probably a bad idea, even if you have experience with firearms. This gun came from a gang member, it could be in a very janky altered condition that makes it act unpredictably. If you’re going to try to disarm it anyway then you should still move it outside first before attempting that just in case it malfunctions and fires while you’re trying to manipulate it

        • @dual_sport_dork
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          …And get it pointed at something that can catch a pistol round.

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            (Though tbf, while pointing a safe direction is always imperative, I’ve yet to see a gun fire from having the mag dropped or the slide racked, or the cylinder swung out, and I’m very experienced with firearms. Typically when a gun “just goes off” it was because they “just ‘accidentally’ touched the trigger.”)

      • @LockheedTheDragon
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        Hospitals have security for a reason. You touching a gun when they have procedures on how to handle this situation is dangerous. If you are on staff you follow procedures. If you are just there and do know about gun safety you would know not to pick up that gun.

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      It’s not difficult.

      A is wrong because whoever wrote this is in no position to evaluate if the person reading it is capable of “to check if the gun is loaded” without blowing their own head off.

      D is wrong because the person whoever wrote this is in no position to evaluate if the person reading it is capable of “hold the gun personally” without blowing their own head off.

      C is the only correct answer.

      • @mipadaitu
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        A is additionally wrong because you don’t know the condition of the firearm. If it is not mechanically sound, manipulating it in any way could cause it to discharge in the worst case, or possibly jamming it in an unsafe condition. Best to let someone get it to a safer location before trying anything. There’s likely no especially safe direction to allow a firearm to discharge in a hospital, much less the ED.

      • @cmac
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        I agree that’s what they want you to answer, but you can’t move it to a safe location without handling it, so C necessarily entails D. Unless there’s a designated firearm handler in the ER you can call over, which to be fair, maybe there should be.

        • @dual_sport_dork
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          If you are at a hospital in the hood they probably have armed security. The ones in the city nearest me certainly do. One would hope they know how to safely handle a firearm as well as have some manner of secure storage someplace, so that’d probably be their department. At least until the cops inevitably get involved.

        • @Glowstick
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          22 months ago

          You’re being too pedantic about wording. The right answer is to make it most safe while minimizing the chance of it accidentally firing. Simply moving it to a locked room down the hallway is the best way to achieve that.

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            Unless you pass by a “good person with a gun” seeing you with a gun and killing you because you’re carrying a gun on the way.

            The only answer is to leave the gun where it is without touching it, exit the room with the patient, lock the door from outside, leave the building yourself, light a cigarette, forget about whatever the problem was, go home, because they aren’t paying you enough to get shot on your job

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              because they aren’t paying you enough to get shot on your job

              If you’re a surgeon, they might be

    • @Lizardking27
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      Lmao I would absolutely not trust some random Healthcare worker to both verify a handgun is unloaded, and safely hold onto it for any amount of time. The answer is clearly, obviously, and only C.

    • @shalafi
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      I wouldn’t trust a doctor to clear a weapon. It’s stupid easy, if you know what you’re doing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Tbf if nobody in the room has experience handling them, it’d be better to tell a nurse to grab the security guard or something than to handle it at all.

      That said, if there’s a possibility one may be in this situation they should take the 5 whole minutes to learn one day, as the actual safest option is to A) know what you’re doing and clear it or B) don’t even touch it until someone does clear it, though this could impact medical care or the speed with which it is delivered.