And elect Trump. Cool. Nice principles. Hope they keep you warm in the camps while you watch your family dragged away and killed. Or maybe it will be your neighbors and not your problem bc you’re not a target demographic. Yet. Thanks for your service hero. You’re affecting change with all your logic and practical action.
Tell me what percentage of the country was able to cast a vote by march 12th, because it’s not the majority. Most of us will never get a say before the primaries are over.
I didn’t do that. I vote DSA. I primary’d Pelosi. I’m accepting the current situation and trying to make change where there’s no risk of elimination of any possible future change (allowing fascism in the oval office).
So how does electing Trump, whoever of us do it, make things better? What’s your proposal? Besides not voting for Biden, what are you doing?
Me and my queer family are thrilled to be sacrificed for your ideological purity. Hopefully we’ll get to watch from the camps as the Trump-led US helps Israel “finish the job” (Trump, 2024) in Gaza and “stolen” elections are eliminated in America.
It takes a truly privileged position to ignore that Repubs will make life worse for women, minorities, LGBT people, oh, and the entire planet because of climate. “Joseph Bidden isn’t helping the climate,” yeah I agree, the alternative is dismantling the EPA and ramping up emissions even further.
Hilarious when statistic are saying that of the voters getting apathetic they tend to be black and/or female. But stand on the name of those groups while you ignore how they’re actually moving some more.
I don’t think that’s an acceptable argument in favor of making them worse. Women were better off before this Roe v. Wade bullshit. You have the privilege to not give a shit, so you’ll do whatever you want with your ballot, I guess.
So let’s let Trump put in another supreme court justice or two. He already got three, which is why Roe was overturned. I don’t understand how you think Democrats were complicit OR had any means of opposing it. It’s the supreme court.
Oh, I’ve actually seen that argument before. I can explain: they know women’s body autonomy is a big issue, they know they’re very visibly on the wrong side, but the best their propaganda network has come up with is “it happened during a Dem presidency sooooooooooo…”
It’s really neat how you far-righties think that anyone other than yourselves finds that argument credible. Ok, Dems are impotent to stop Repub malfeasance, I guess I had better throw my vote in the trash instead of voting against Repubs, great thinking.
Nah. Lefties are smart enough to understand who placed which judge on SCOTUS. Lefties understand the mathematics behind FPTP voting. And lefties care about the erosion of human rights from having Repubs in office. You have none of those qualities.
These so called “far lefties” have a hard time answering if u bring up that the Zapatistas, for example (the Spanish anarchists, u know, actual far lefties), list as second on their list of tenets (paraphrased) making conditions more tolerable under the current system while it lasts.
Typically far left parties still participate in electoral politics; its easier to accomplish leftist goals when the proles still have breathing room underneath the authoritarian boot.
Lefties dont have fptp voting. Lefties have strong human rights records and a commanding lead over conservative parties in their countries because of it.
Progressive EU countries are lefties. Democrat led US is not.
There has never been a wider gap between the Democrats and the Republicans than there is right now.
I get it you want to prove your hardcore che guevara t-shirt socialist cred. But you want to be credible at all you gotta at least sometimes look at the facts.
Perfect example. Trump says he wants to deport people that were born in the US (which obviously isn’t legal). Call in the military, shoot people attempting to cross the border. Texas is putting barbed wire on the border, the the Federal government (that’s Biden) is opposing it. They want the border completely shut down and people of certain ethnicity banned.
The Dems want additional judges to process asylum applications faster. Which is good for everyone. There are some bad things in the bill, but Biden doesn’t have to enforce them and the courts will likely overturn them like they did with Trump’s Muslim ban. Getting the additional judges and staff needed to deal with the backlog of asylum claims is super important and will lessen the hardship on immigrants seeking asylum.
So explain to me how trying to get asylum claims processed faster is exactly the same thing as Trump’s Muslim ban? Or building a wall? Or shooting people?
Its a federal border. That barbed wire is his barbed wire. This is his presidency, this is how he is running the border.
There are some bad things in the bill, but Biden doesn’t have to enforce them and the courts will likely overturn them like they did with Trump’s Muslim ban.
You do realize i have absolutely zero trust in Biden and this hinges on blind faith in Biden. Or at least youre arguing it does, i dont think Biden has any ability to control the bad things like fewer asylum approvals. Democrats, including Biden, have been using the same rhetoric as republicans, actively appealing to conservatives, assuring them they want a “stronger border”
Its a federal border. That barbed wire is his barbed wire.
You haven’t been following the news. The Texas Governor put the barbed wire there. The Supreme Court upheld that he was able to do so(because of course they did). Biden is trying to remove it.
Maybe try diversifying your news sources beyond TikTok.
The more conservative BS you let the DNC get away with, the more you back Trump. Im not gonna vote for conservatives no matter how bad one of em is.
And elect Trump. Cool. Nice principles. Hope they keep you warm in the camps while you watch your family dragged away and killed. Or maybe it will be your neighbors and not your problem bc you’re not a target demographic. Yet. Thanks for your service hero. You’re affecting change with all your logic and practical action.
You’re electing Trump by not allowing any viable candidates to be considered
Who’s viable besides Trump and Biden?
entirely up to the voters to decide.
They did. Now it’s time for the general election, and those 2 are the choices.
When did they?
March 12.
Tell me what percentage of the country was able to cast a vote by march 12th, because it’s not the majority. Most of us will never get a say before the primaries are over.
If youre talking about the party nominations, democrats didnt really have primaries.
Okay, whatever. We’re here now. Those are the two candidates. You’re not going to respond to this with an answer bc you’re not an actual human.
Nah theres other candidates, other parties
Yeah, that’s the attitude that got him elected and see how that turned out for everyone.
It’s not like doing that is going to inject much meaningful change. It’s not a strategy to address the problem you want to fix.
They never have solutions. Just criticism, whining, dreaming, and shoe gazing. If they’re not just working 9 to 5 in Russian troll farms.
The attitude that got Biden elected was “we’ll push him further left after the election”.
I’d say the attitude that got him elected was a doomed candidate in Hillary. And Im saying Biden this year is similarly doomed.
I didn’t do that. I vote DSA. I primary’d Pelosi. I’m accepting the current situation and trying to make change where there’s no risk of elimination of any possible future change (allowing fascism in the oval office).
So how does electing Trump, whoever of us do it, make things better? What’s your proposal? Besides not voting for Biden, what are you doing?
Me and my queer family are thrilled to be sacrificed for your ideological purity. Hopefully we’ll get to watch from the camps as the Trump-led US helps Israel “finish the job” (Trump, 2024) in Gaza and “stolen” elections are eliminated in America.
Really weird to try using Bidens failings as a warning for what might happen if he’s not reelected.
It takes a truly privileged position to ignore that Repubs will make life worse for women, minorities, LGBT people, oh, and the entire planet because of climate. “Joseph Bidden isn’t helping the climate,” yeah I agree, the alternative is dismantling the EPA and ramping up emissions even further.
Hilarious when statistic are saying that of the voters getting apathetic they tend to be black and/or female. But stand on the name of those groups while you ignore how they’re actually moving some more.
How are you suggesting that one best support women’s access to healthcare? Voter apathy because of the people becoming apathetic many tend to be women? Grow up. Women who aren’t apathetic absolutely do care about Dobbs. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/women-have-swung-toward-democrats-since-the-dobbs-decision/
I dont think things are currently going well for any of these groups
I don’t think that’s an acceptable argument in favor of making them worse. Women were better off before this Roe v. Wade bullshit. You have the privilege to not give a shit, so you’ll do whatever you want with your ballot, I guess.
absolutely. check out when that happened. If I cant convince you democrats are complicit in it, at least realize they’re impotent at opposing it.
So let’s let Trump put in another supreme court justice or two. He already got three, which is why Roe was overturned. I don’t understand how you think Democrats were complicit OR had any means of opposing it. It’s the supreme court.
Oh, I’ve actually seen that argument before. I can explain: they know women’s body autonomy is a big issue, they know they’re very visibly on the wrong side, but the best their propaganda network has come up with is “it happened during a Dem presidency sooooooooooo…”
They can expand it
Where’s Biden’s? If you think they have no means of opposing it, why do you want them elected? Whats the point?
It’s really neat how you far-righties think that anyone other than yourselves finds that argument credible. Ok, Dems are impotent to stop Repub malfeasance, I guess I had better throw my vote in the trash instead of voting against Repubs, great thinking.
Far lefty. Dems and republicans are both conservative from my perspective.
Nah. Lefties are smart enough to understand who placed which judge on SCOTUS. Lefties understand the mathematics behind FPTP voting. And lefties care about the erosion of human rights from having Repubs in office. You have none of those qualities.
These so called “far lefties” have a hard time answering if u bring up that the Zapatistas, for example (the Spanish anarchists, u know, actual far lefties), list as second on their list of tenets (paraphrased) making conditions more tolerable under the current system while it lasts.
Typically far left parties still participate in electoral politics; its easier to accomplish leftist goals when the proles still have breathing room underneath the authoritarian boot.
Lefties dont have fptp voting. Lefties have strong human rights records and a commanding lead over conservative parties in their countries because of it.
Progressive EU countries are lefties. Democrat led US is not.
You’re absolutely right… Since things suck for them now, we should accelerate their demise!
elect someone that wont continue to make things worse for them.
There has never been a wider gap between the Democrats and the Republicans than there is right now.
I get it you want to prove your hardcore che guevara t-shirt socialist cred. But you want to be credible at all you gotta at least sometimes look at the facts.
what a chasm of a gap. Except for like, immigration now https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/28/senate-dems-asylum-ukraine-money-00128970
Perfect example. Trump says he wants to deport people that were born in the US (which obviously isn’t legal). Call in the military, shoot people attempting to cross the border. Texas is putting barbed wire on the border, the the Federal government (that’s Biden) is opposing it. They want the border completely shut down and people of certain ethnicity banned.
The Dems want additional judges to process asylum applications faster. Which is good for everyone. There are some bad things in the bill, but Biden doesn’t have to enforce them and the courts will likely overturn them like they did with Trump’s Muslim ban. Getting the additional judges and staff needed to deal with the backlog of asylum claims is super important and will lessen the hardship on immigrants seeking asylum.
So explain to me how trying to get asylum claims processed faster is exactly the same thing as Trump’s Muslim ban? Or building a wall? Or shooting people?
Its a federal border. That barbed wire is his barbed wire. This is his presidency, this is how he is running the border.
You do realize i have absolutely zero trust in Biden and this hinges on blind faith in Biden. Or at least youre arguing it does, i dont think Biden has any ability to control the bad things like fewer asylum approvals. Democrats, including Biden, have been using the same rhetoric as republicans, actively appealing to conservatives, assuring them they want a “stronger border”
Address the main point. Do you think democrats and Republicans are equally bad when it comes to immigration?
Yes. When is the difference supposed to be made clear? Like, theyre currently working with republicans on a bill to make things worse for immigrants.
You think Democrats want to call in the national guard to shoot any immigrants attempting to cross the border?
Or is that just Republicans?
They want to better arm them to be able to shoot even more.
You haven’t been following the news. The Texas Governor put the barbed wire there. The Supreme Court upheld that he was able to do so(because of course they did). Biden is trying to remove it.
Maybe try diversifying your news sources beyond TikTok.