• Porto881
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      510 months ago

      Theyre coming for the Corvette and Chally, too, friend. Personally, I said the Mirage because that’s exactly what I want out of an EV. Sportiness and EV just doesn’t mesh to me and I’ve got a whole backyard of cars I’ve spent years building/restoring/modding to fit all my performance needs. What I’d love to have is an EV that actually delivers on what they were sold to us as: an economic choice. I’ll take my V8s out on the weekend, but give me a new shitbox that’s dirt cheap off the lot and even cheaper to run around on my daily commute and I’ll be happy.

      • @[email protected]
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        610 months ago

        The thing is, a Volkswagen EV holds the Pikes Peak record. EVs are sporty as hell.

        Compact EVs do exist, but they are hella expensive for some reason. Volkswagen makes them at least.

        • Porto881
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          010 months ago

          They’re fast but it literally just comes down to the fact that they’re all autos. I don’t think there’s any consumer EV with a proper stick

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            I think they tried to do something like that in some Japanese brand. That said, they are not really autos, they are direct drive, there is no transmission to speak of. It’s like expecting a stick shift in a propeller plane, no point to it.

            • Porto881
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              310 months ago

              Toyota’s been toying with the idea of a simulated standard transmission. You’re totally right about them not really being autos either. I understand that there’s really no way for a EV to have a manual transmission, but that’s pretty much where the “sport” comes from, “slow car fast” and all that. Otherwise it’s pretty much just a numbers game, no real skill required.

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                110 months ago

                I believe the Porsche Taycan (sp?) has two gears. The second one kicks in at something silly like 80mph.

          • @jj4211
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            Technically, they are mostly not automatic transmissions. Mostly they are single-speed. There’s no automatic shifting of gears. If you like playing with the stick for the sake of playing with the stick for fun, that’s no comfort. But if you were trying to outdo automatic transmissions at anticipating the right gear for what comes next, well, that’s not an issue in an EV, the answer is always “already in the right gear for what comes next”.

            The one thing I’d say is if you were a fan of cornering, the weight of an EV puts it at a disadvantage, it can’t quite be as nimble as a little sports car.

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            Of course not. EVs don’t need a transmission, plus it helps make up for some of the weight of the battery to just not have one.

            I also loved a manual transmission, but I love a good piece of engineering more than just my interactions with it. I also loved how smoothly the CVT on my Subaru accelerated and how responsive it was. However I love even more the sheer effortless silent torque of my EV.

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      An electric GTI or Civic Type R would be sick. Crazy performance, but still a lot smaller and more lightweight than other stuff on the market, so charging could be faster and the price could be less insane.

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        Electric GTI-s exist, it’s called a GTE.

        I don’t know how they perform, though.

        Edit: I’m stupid, GTEs are PHEVs. Well, TIL.

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        EV GTI is exactly what I’m waiting for. VW claims 2026 so first US availability is probably 2027. My current GTI is in good shape so shouldn’t be a problem to hold out 3 more years.

      • @AA5B
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        That’s what I get from the description of the Rivian 3x. However it’s several years away plus they didn’t announce a target price point

      • @jj4211
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        One reason is that for a “little car you can toss around”, the battery weight is a bit of a challenge. So starting with larger form factors makes sense where: -They are more popular anyway -The weight difference isn’t as noticable

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          Comparing a few weights:

          • GTI: 3100 lbs
          • Bolt EV: 3500 lbs
          • Model 3: 3800 lbs
          • id3: 3900 lbs

          That same weight isn’t doable, but it seems like they can get close.

    • @AA5B
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      Maccy could have stood on its own - it seems like a decent vehicle, but wtf were they thinking abusing the Mustang name like that. It is clearly not a vehicle someone looking for a Mustang would like, nor does it add value to the Mustang name. It was just a seriously boneheaded move - did they lay off marketing and go with some engineering comment?