I’m in the EV market right now, looking for a good commuter car, and Tesla went from my #1 spot to one of the last options. It’s amazing how well he tanked that whole business. Luckily there’s a ton of
competition cheaters now
A conservative was talking at me a few weeks ago about how much he loved how Musk was pissing off the libs and about how he’s a shrewd businessman. I asked if he would buy a Tesla and he said never. He didn’t have a response when I told him Musk doesn’t sound like a good businessman.
My dad was going to buy a Tesla up until a few years ago, there’s far more and better competition nowadays. And it’s really seeming Tesla’s are actively dangerous.
Sure seems like it, and I see an article every other week about the self driving aspect hurting someone or getting into trouble. Just not worth the hassle.
What is at the top of your list? I’m leaning towards the Ford Mach E with awd but have only looked deeply at half of what is available. Tesla is at the bottom of my list also
Mach e is up there. Currently number one spot is the Hyundai ioniq 6, it looks like a direct competitor to the model 3. Nissan leaf and I think Honda are in the running too. Idk gotta start test driving to really know. I’ll still test drive a model 3, but from what I hear and see I probably won’t go for it
I was in the same boat as you having the Tesla be my dream car until all this Twitter shit hit the fan. My roommate has an Ioniq 5 which I liked so much I got an Ioniq 6 as soon as it came out. I absolutely love it.
My friend bought a 22 leaf last year and from what I know, she loves it. It definitely took some getting used to! We still normally take my car on road trips, though.
Well their brake lights wouldn’t turn on during regenerative braking and Hyundai has had some bouts of hacking scandals. But I have heard owners saying food things about them.
I’ve had my Mach-E GT for two years now and it’s been very reliable and very comfortable. There were a couple of small hiccups early on, but I can’t see going back to non-electric cars. Would definitely buy it again!
My parents got a 2021 Mach E and they love it. I’ve driven it a few times. I’m eyeing one for my next car too, though I’ve also been interested in Hyundai’s offerings. I’ve never wanted a Hyundai in my life but their new EV lineup looks pretty compelling.
What grinds my gears the most is that every fucking manufacturer sucks at software and usability so hard it hurts every time.
I rather have bad UX than bow to this moron though.
If you’re in California, be aware that there’s a hidden/sneaky “EV tax” and you’ll be paying (nearly) double registration fees every year. Mine went from $330 to alamost $700.
Also public charging is starting to be a problem as there’s not nearly enough charging stations and CA does nothing about it.
I mean I wouldn’t call it sneaky, it’s not like a conspiracy or anything. Most states pay for road maintenance and projects from gas taxes. Since EVs don’t use gas but still use roads they should pay their share too, so it makes sense it’d come from the registration. It’s still way less than paying for gas or taxes on gas.
Should be a variable charge like a gas tax placed on public EV chargers and not a one time yearly fee. There is a big consumption difference between a Hummer EV and a Smart EV.
EDIT: Not every state has thought clearly about additional EV fees. Starting later this year, Texans who drive electric cars will pay significantly more in registration fees than an average gas car driver pays in gas taxes each year…because it’s fucking Texas.
I’d much rather pay a flat extra tax than have my personal charging habits monitored. I don’t need any more spies in my home trying to charge me based on my behaviors. I’d rather pay the flat fee and keep my privacy.
You’re also not paying gas taxes though. They have to make up the lost gas tax revenue somehow. Realistically, it should be based on the miles driven and the weight of the car (road damages increases exponentially with the weight of the vehicle), but for now they just have that flat EV tax.
However I’ve had several EA chargers derated, one at 30kWh. Not to mention broken stalls. Or how about EA charging me the full price even though I paid for their membership thing?
ChargePoint never hit full speed on my last trip.
A random CCS station did better than any of the big names.
Tesla is by far the most reliable, why do you think auto companies are changing to NACS?
No idea why people keep buying cars from this guy. Fuck this moron.
I’m in the EV market right now, looking for a good commuter car, and Tesla went from my #1 spot to one of the last options. It’s amazing how well he tanked that whole business. Luckily there’s a ton of
competitioncheaters nowA conservative was talking at me a few weeks ago about how much he loved how Musk was pissing off the libs and about how he’s a shrewd businessman. I asked if he would buy a Tesla and he said never. He didn’t have a response when I told him Musk doesn’t sound like a good businessman.
My dad was going to buy a Tesla up until a few years ago, there’s far more and better competition nowadays. And it’s really seeming Tesla’s are actively dangerous.
Don’t they have the highest amount of flaws among all car brands or something?
Sure seems like it, and I see an article every other week about the self driving aspect hurting someone or getting into trouble. Just not worth the hassle.
What is at the top of your list? I’m leaning towards the Ford Mach E with awd but have only looked deeply at half of what is available. Tesla is at the bottom of my list also
Mach e is up there. Currently number one spot is the Hyundai ioniq 6, it looks like a direct competitor to the model 3. Nissan leaf and I think Honda are in the running too. Idk gotta start test driving to really know. I’ll still test drive a model 3, but from what I hear and see I probably won’t go for it
The Ioniqs are absolutely sexy vehicles, they’re at the top of my list too!
Yeah Hyundai in general recently has knocked it out of the park with their design language and the ioniqs are some of the best in their lineup
I just need them to make the N Vision 74 happen, and I’m 100% on board.
late as hell but yes please the N74 is one of the most gorgeous cars to come out of this decade
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I was in the same boat as you having the Tesla be my dream car until all this Twitter shit hit the fan. My roommate has an Ioniq 5 which I liked so much I got an Ioniq 6 as soon as it came out. I absolutely love it.
My friend bought a 22 leaf last year and from what I know, she loves it. It definitely took some getting used to! We still normally take my car on road trips, though.
Man those Ioniqs look so good in person too. I’m considering buying one for my wife next year, if I can convince her to get ride of her beloved Prius
Well their brake lights wouldn’t turn on during regenerative braking and Hyundai has had some bouts of hacking scandals. But I have heard owners saying food things about them.
Hmmm… food things… /drool
I’ve had my Mach-E GT for two years now and it’s been very reliable and very comfortable. There were a couple of small hiccups early on, but I can’t see going back to non-electric cars. Would definitely buy it again!
My parents got a 2021 Mach E and they love it. I’ve driven it a few times. I’m eyeing one for my next car too, though I’ve also been interested in Hyundai’s offerings. I’ve never wanted a Hyundai in my life but their new EV lineup looks pretty compelling.
Im not sure I could own a car with such an ugly tail end lol… ::Shudder::
Hyundai Ioniq is a sexy car.
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Just include a reaching leg thingy as well then you can drive from the right side too. Musk, if you do this I will sue you for “cheating”.
He chose to get cocky right when competition caught up
Idk, from what I heard he barely spends his time with Tesla these days due to being preoccupied with twitter 😂
I would not buy cars from a guy who can’t even manage a website.
He did manage it. Managed to turn it into a pile of shit bigger than the one on Jurassic Park
https://i.imgur.com/2ZE0FU8.gif
I have even forgotten he is in cars business, more news from him when he is manipulating crypto prices
What grinds my gears the most is that every fucking manufacturer sucks at software and usability so hard it hurts every time. I rather have bad UX than bow to this moron though.
Tesla’s are extremely dangerous: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/
If you’re in California, be aware that there’s a hidden/sneaky “EV tax” and you’ll be paying (nearly) double registration fees every year. Mine went from $330 to alamost $700.
Also public charging is starting to be a problem as there’s not nearly enough charging stations and CA does nothing about it.
I mean I wouldn’t call it sneaky, it’s not like a conspiracy or anything. Most states pay for road maintenance and projects from gas taxes. Since EVs don’t use gas but still use roads they should pay their share too, so it makes sense it’d come from the registration. It’s still way less than paying for gas or taxes on gas.
Should be a variable charge like a gas tax placed on public EV chargers and not a one time yearly fee. There is a big consumption difference between a Hummer EV and a Smart EV.
EDIT: Not every state has thought clearly about additional EV fees. Starting later this year, Texans who drive electric cars will pay significantly more in registration fees than an average gas car driver pays in gas taxes each year…because it’s fucking Texas.
The issue with taxing public charging is you can just charge at home to avoid the tax. Also there are many public level 2 chargers that are free.
I’d much rather pay a flat extra tax than have my personal charging habits monitored. I don’t need any more spies in my home trying to charge me based on my behaviors. I’d rather pay the flat fee and keep my privacy.
Are they going to put a monitor on your home charger then too?
You’re also not paying gas taxes though. They have to make up the lost gas tax revenue somehow. Realistically, it should be based on the miles driven and the weight of the car (road damages increases exponentially with the weight of the vehicle), but for now they just have that flat EV tax.
Try charging a non Tesla while on a road trip, you’ll learn fast.
I just went MA -> TN -> OH -> MA and only had one place where all stations were offline, but they came back within a half hour.
I’ve never had a Tesla supercharger be offline.
However I’ve had several EA chargers derated, one at 30kWh. Not to mention broken stalls. Or how about EA charging me the full price even though I paid for their membership thing?
ChargePoint never hit full speed on my last trip.
A random CCS station did better than any of the big names.
Tesla is by far the most reliable, why do you think auto companies are changing to NACS?