Or is that redundant since the German government already gives the Netanyahu regime everything it wants including a lot of genocide denial gaslighting?
As far as I’m aware, no AfD politician has yet been caught working for the Mossad.
That might just be a question of time though. Or Mossad agents might be more effective at recruiting the more intelligent AfD members and thereby avoid discovery.
Antisemitism being widespread within the AfD could complicate things further though money might prevail here.
Antisemitism being widespread within the AfD could complicate things further
Not necessarily. There’s tons of antisemitism in The American Fascist Party the GOP, but they’re 100% on the side of the Israeli government.
In fact, equating Judaism and the Israeli government is arguably a kind of antisemitism itself, since many Jewish people resent being automatically assumed to support the Netanyahu government’s atrocities or even Zionism in general.
Not necessarily. There’s tons of antisemitism in The American Fascist Party the GOP, but they’re 100% on the side of the Israeli government.
The conservative brain works in mysterious ways.
Some support Israel because of some end-times prophecy nonsense, some think that every Jew that moves to Israel is one less Jew in their way. Others just decided they hate Muslims more than Jew.
In fact, equating Judaism and the Israeli government is arguably a kind of antisemitism itself
That’s a different thing. You can oppose Israel without being an antisemite, but it’s trickier to explain how you can be an antisemite without opposing Israel. Hating all Jews while somehow militarily supporting those Jews. While it can be explained (see above) you have to admit it is rather counterintuitive.
And anyway I would not expect GOP dynamics to easily translate to the AFD.
It’s easy to explain: it’s raw, unadulterated primate tribalism.
Multiple studies have shown how tribal psychology overrides pesky things like logic or coherent, and it’s terrifying how much people will excuse or rationalize in order to remain in good standing with their tribe.
Demagogues know this very well, as one of the first things they do is force their followers to hold contradictory principles as a kind of shibboleth. It softens their followers up for what’s to come.
I didn’t want to say that not supporting Israel is antisemitic or that antisemites can’t support Israel. I just wanted to say that, on average, antisemites are probably harder to recruit for the Mossad than others.
Nah, it was a legitimate question, since it would be a logical third button given the context.
A whataboutism would be if I tried to defend the AFD by deflecting to their opponent’s relationship with Israel or something along those lines rather than add it to the transgressions of the far right as I was doing.
What, no “Spy for Israel”?
Or is that redundant since the German government already gives the Netanyahu regime everything it wants including a lot of genocide denial gaslighting?
As far as I’m aware, no AfD politician has yet been caught working for the Mossad.
That might just be a question of time though. Or Mossad agents might be more effective at recruiting the more intelligent AfD members and thereby avoid discovery.
Antisemitism being widespread within the AfD could complicate things further though money might prevail here.
Not necessarily. There’s tons of antisemitism in
The American Fascist Partythe GOP, but they’re 100% on the side of the Israeli government.In fact, equating Judaism and the Israeli government is arguably a kind of antisemitism itself, since many Jewish people resent being automatically assumed to support the Netanyahu government’s atrocities or even Zionism in general.
Not all antisemites realized they could hide behind support for Israel…
True.
The conservative brain works in mysterious ways. Some support Israel because of some end-times prophecy nonsense, some think that every Jew that moves to Israel is one less Jew in their way. Others just decided they hate Muslims more than Jew.
That’s a different thing. You can oppose Israel without being an antisemite, but it’s trickier to explain how you can be an antisemite without opposing Israel. Hating all Jews while somehow militarily supporting those Jews. While it can be explained (see above) you have to admit it is rather counterintuitive.
And anyway I would not expect GOP dynamics to easily translate to the AFD.
It’s easy to explain: it’s raw, unadulterated primate tribalism.
Multiple studies have shown how tribal psychology overrides pesky things like logic or coherent, and it’s terrifying how much people will excuse or rationalize in order to remain in good standing with their tribe.
Demagogues know this very well, as one of the first things they do is force their followers to hold contradictory principles as a kind of shibboleth. It softens their followers up for what’s to come.
I didn’t want to say that not supporting Israel is antisemitic or that antisemites can’t support Israel. I just wanted to say that, on average, antisemites are probably harder to recruit for the Mossad than others.
That’s very true. I didn’t actually mean to accuse YOU specifically of that form of antisemitism BTW, in case there’s any doubt 🙂
I think you should have phrased this as “what about”.
Nah, it was a legitimate question, since it would be a logical third button given the context.
A whataboutism would be if I tried to defend the AFD by deflecting to their opponent’s relationship with Israel or something along those lines rather than add it to the transgressions of the far right as I was doing.
Hmm. Fair enough!