• @SchmidtGenetics
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    8 months ago

    Isn’t gps NA specific? What good would jamming do?

    • mozz
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      448 months ago

      GPS is a product of the US military; its usefulness to them would be limited if it were North America only, since they mostly wanted it to tell where they were, wherever they happened to be in the world that they had no knowledge of but were actively fuckin’ with.

      GPS is equally available to civilians in Freedomland as it is to civilians wherever else in the globe. They used to arbitrarily fuck up the signal resolution for the non-military version, until they realized that all they were doing was (a) mildly inconveniencing tech companies who had go through the rite of passage of assigning a single junior programmer to determine how to mostly undo their resolution-fucking-with which wasn’t that challenging (b) motivating every other country to develop their own GPS equivalents.

      By the time they just let everyone have real GPS, people had cottoned on to the idea that maybe putting your navigation under the whims of the US military wasn’t a great idea, and had gone to the pretty significant expense of developing their own. So now there’s a bunch of them, and you can pretty much choose whichever one pleases you. But with the exception of NavIC, they’re all available all over the world.

      • @cactusupyourbutt
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        68 months ago

        wait gps is unscrambled niw? then why is it still so inaccurate?

        • @Zron
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          118 months ago

          If you have a modern receiver, like any smartphone from the last 10 years, gps is accurate to a couple of meters.

          It’s only a couple of meters for a few of reasons: necessity, speed, and scale.

          It’s not necessary for most users to have centimeter precision for gps. Most uses for GPS is for humans to find a place, most humans have eyes, or can at least read braille signs. So if you’re looking for a pizza place and your gps says you’ve arrived, you can look around and see that the pizza place is 3 meters down the road.

          Speed, because you can get really accurate locations out of gps, but your receiver would need to refine your location by talking to many satellites many times, which isn’t needed for most users as just knowing if you’re on the right street and the right side of the street is enough. Many communications would mean it takes a long time for the gps device to determine a precise location, which is frustrating for your average user.

          And scale, it’s a really big planet, and there’s a finite number of gps satellites. The less satellites in your network, or the less they’ll talk to your receiver, means less accurate data and a less accurate location.

          TLDR: most people don’t need sub meter precision from their gps, so it’s simply not provided to most people.

        • @SkyezOpen
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          58 months ago

          How inaccurate are we talking? Selective availability used to fuzz location by 30 meters which is insane.

        • @cynar
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          58 months ago

          The main limitation now is actually the atmosphere. As the air heats and cools, it expands and contracts. This changes the amount of air the signal is passing through. Since the speed of light in air is slightly slower than vacuum, the effective position accuracy is reduced.

          There is a fairly simple correction, you need a static reference. If you have a fixed receiver, then pass its readings to the dynamic one, then you can correct for errors. Combined with inverse kinematics you can get sub centimeter resolution quite reliably.

        • mozz
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          28 months ago

          This page explains the reasons and seems pretty credible (and also gives a date for the descrambling; it was fixed as of May 2000).

        • @[email protected]
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          168 months ago

          GPS covers the whole globe and besides jamming (wich is sending false data) there is no legitimate way to turn it of, as these satellites just send their own coordinates and times, they can be received by everyone. The actual triangulation happens on ground, the satellites are basically light houses in the sky.

        • @SkyezOpen
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          28 months ago

          Tell me you don’t understand how satellites work without saying you don’t understand how satellites work.