There are no ethical choices under first-past-the-post voting. We must instead make a decision that reduces the most harm.

  • @[email protected]OP
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    What population of people outside of your country is going to be “saved” by a round-2 Biden ticket exactly?..

    People living in Ukraine, Gaza, and Taiwan to name a few. Also everyone in countries in Europe besides Ukraine. In fact most of the countries of the world, because authoritarian dictatorships will carve the world into spheres of influence. To be clear, dictators will be killing millions of people in their spheres of influence with genocides and ethnic cleansings.

    You can’t possibly believe in the man taking >$5.5M from Israel to run the Palestinian state into the dirt, right?

    Do you mean giving to? If we’re still talking about Biden then I believe he will do the least harm.

    You Can’t Be Neutral on a Moving Train

    This supports my argument as I am arguing we need to pick the side that will do the least harm. There is no way to be neutral with FPTP voting.

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      we need to pick the side that will do the least harm. There is no way to be neutral with FPTP voting.

      I don’t think you need to actually “pick a side,” in the sense like they’re the team you support and root for. Vote for the best candidate available to you, yes; but don’t stop complaining about the paltriness of your choice. Don’t stop agitating for an end to an ongoing genocide that is being supported by your best-of-two-bad-choices rep.

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        Ukraine’s war will continue regardless.

        No, Russia will conquer Ukraine if someone doesn’t support them. Trump isn’t going to support Ukraine. Biden will.

        The Palestinian genocide will continue regardless.

        No, Trump will encourage Israel to finish the genocide.

        Taiwan isn’t under any threat of being killed by the millions at the moment, so I’m not even sure how he would “save” them?..

        From China who famously wants to invade Taiwan.

        No 😂. Look up a list of the most “donations” taken from Israel by any political candidate. Did you genuinely not look into things like this before defending him with a shitty Sonic meme?

        Oh, you meant donations he received. Yeah, most US politicians have through AIPAC. I had no idea what you were talking about.

        This is also wrong. You are allowing genocide to continue by agreeing with the current status-quo. Acting like voting in the same man taking in millions to kill over 100,000 brown people (most of which are women and children) will somehow SAVE Palestine (I noticed you used “Gaza” there by mistake, nbd I fixed that for you) is so painfully ignorant it just has to be on purpose.

        No, Trump will encourage Israel to finish the genocide. All Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel will be killed. Gaza is just one part of Palestine, not the whole thing. edit: typo

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                We won’t be confused, we’ll know people like you allowed it to happen.

                If you think throwing away your vote means going further left, then I have a bridge to sell you.

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                    Legit nobody has correctly identified why the people in this thread are completely avoiding using the word “Palestine” and are instead using “Gaza.”

                    Lmao the person you couldn’t argue against did exactly that.

                    Imagine you spent the effort you are here petulantly calling me a bot trying to spin up an actual counter-argument.

                    Your little head would probably explode.

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        “Ukraine’s war” but Palestinian genocide. The situation in Ukraine is no less of a genocide, and it’s Russia’s war, Ukraine is just trying to survive.

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            I said they’re both genocide. Just because the oppressor could lose doesn’t remove the possibility of genocide. Germany lost WW2, but they absolutely committed genocide.

            Russia has abducted 20k Ukrainian children. Russia has destroyed museums, schools, cultural monuments, and churches. Russia has changed the language in the regions they conquered. It has been declared a genocide by many nations, scholars, and the international criminal court.

            What “KD ratio” is required for a genocide to count in your mind?

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                Historically that’s total nonsense. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were at war during the Nazi Holocaust in Russia that killed over a hundred thousand people. Are you saying that wasn’t genocide? I find that absurd.

                Israel declared war on Hamas, but that’s still a genocide. Russia didn’t declare war until last month. Ukraine hasn’t declared war, they’re being invaded. So how does your distinction make any sense?