• @[email protected]
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      Personally if I already had a 5800x I probably wouldn’t upgrade to the 3d, though there would likely be some gains, especially if you’re cpu bound on a game.

      Here’s like 40 games where they’re compared on a nividia 3090:

      https://www.techspot.com/review/2451-ryzen-5800x3d-vs-ryzen-5800x/

      I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5800x3d so there was a big boost.

      But a 5800x3d isn’t even much cheaper than a 7800x3d, and the socket type switched now. So if I already had a 5800x I’d probably just wait and switch to a 3d chip in the future when I was ready to upgrade my motherboard. If cost is no object and you’re not gonna swap the motherboard for a long time, then yes it’s the best gaming cpu you’re going to be able to use with that board and likely always will be.

      • applepie
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        Thanks for sharing would your suggestion change if current CPU is below 5800x, 5700 or 5600 lets say?

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        You’re awesome, thank you for sharing that!

        But a 5800x3d isn’t even much cheaper than a 7800x3d, and the socket type switched now. So if I already had a 5800x I’d probably just wait and switch to a 3d chip in the future when I was ready to upgrade my motherboard.

        That’s been my current m.o. so far. My original thought, and reoccurring hope, is that some day the price comes down on the 3d chip enough to make it worth the ‘bang vs buck’ purchase, especially so since I just primarily game on my PC these days.

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          I feel your pain, it’s just such a popular cpu it never seems to come down as much as you’d think. Kind of the end game for anyone who doesn’t want a new motherboard.

          • Cosmic Cleric
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            I feel your pain,

            Thank you. 🙂

            it’s just such a popular cpu it never seems to come down as much as you’d think. Kind of the end game for anyone who doesn’t want a new motherboard.

            Yep, agree. Maybe a fools hope, but I’m hoping that someday remaining stock will want to be sold off to make room for the 8000 line of CPUs, etc.

            I wait a long time for Steam sales, and my 5800X takes well care of me today, so I’m not in a rush, and am used to the wait.

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      If you’re into factorio then, afaik, the 3d chips are still the best CPUs for that game. Factorio loves l3 cache, and the x3d CPUs have a ton of it.

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      I’m wondering the same thing for my Ryzen 7 3700X as I’ve seen a lot of press recently for these chips…

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        I’ve got a 3800x (in an x570 board) and I’m considering a 5950x upgrade to retire that box to home-server duty, and do a new gaming rig. 5950x averages about $350 USD from what I’ve seen for about a year now

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        I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5800x3d and the performance boost was pretty noticeable with the GTX 1080 I had at the time. The difference is mostly in the 1% and 0.1% lows, but that’s what bothers me the most.

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      It will never be. This is for people on older CPUs/building fresh and don’t want to opt for AM5.

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        It will never be.

        Why not? You don’t think that when inventory stops selling that sellers will want to dump remaining stock?

        Can’t imaging the 5800 line to keep selling forever, especially when the 8000 line, etc., comes out.

        But if it never happens thats fine too, I’m really happy with my 5800X. But as a gamer, would love to have a cheap ‘upgrade’ some day of just swapping out a chip, to get more mileage out of my older (at that point) hardware.

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          I really doubt the 5*00x3d will ever see a major price drop from what they’re at already. I feel like they’re just going to stop making them and have 0 issue clearing out the remaining stock since they’re such popular chips.

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          You can get a 5500 or something for well under $100 and build a budget pc that’ll play most games - the barrier to entry to become a potential 5800X3D customer is very low these days.

          Factor in that it’s a hard chip to manufacture and yeah, I can see the current 5800X3D prices lasting quite a while. There’s just too many machines out in the wild whose owners want the same thing you do.