Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

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    There are things Biden will listen on. There are things he won’t. The past 30 years or so have made it clear that Israel is not something he will listen on.

    But I am not a single issue voter. There are a lot of issues I care about. And I agree with Biden on many of those.

    By all means. Protest. But when it comes time to vote? Fucking vote.

    I could MAYBE understand this if trump were out there talking about Palestinian human rights (I am sure we could find a hot Palestinian for him to assault…). But he isn’t. He is going to be just as bad, if not worse.

    Primaries and every day but election day is about fighting for what you want. Election day is about minimizing harm. Welcome to being an adult. And if “voters” don’t understand that then yes, I do blame them (and us as a people).

    • @givesomefucks
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      27 months ago

      But I am not a single issue voter.

      Hardly anyone is…

      “Single issue voter” is bullshit to fracture a unified base that’s rallied around one cause. Absolutely none of them literally only care about this and nothing else.

      It’s just when lots of average people rally around one common issue, change can happen.

      So the people in power try to fracture that unified base and find something they disagree with.

      It’s all basic psychology. If you stop and think why that always comes up when there’s a large movement for one issue, it’s really obvious

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        If nobody cares about only one issue then why are people talking about pissing a vote away because:

        • Both candidates have basically the same stance on their number one issue
        • They are too lazy to look at any of their other issues

        But yeah. I agree that nobody is actually a single issue voter. Which is why it is important to understand there is more than one issue at play here.

        Change CAN happen if the two parties have a different stance. republicans got CLOBBERED because a shocking amount of their base actually care about abortion rights. Democrats have not done anywhere near what they fucking should on that front, but they are the pro human rights party… when it comes to that.

        In this case? Both parties have the same stance. It isn’t like letting trump win will at all help the Palestinian people.

        • @givesomefucks
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          7 months ago

          Because:

          Enough is enough

          Gaza is a big issue, and Biden’s treatment of those that disagree with him isn’t that much different than trumps.

          Biden has said the same bullshit about recent protests that Trump said about BLM.

          People see that, and it makes them think there’s no chance that they or anyone else can change Biden’s mind about anything else.

          And that’s a bad look when your goal is turning out dem voters.

          You sound like you get that, but instead of being mad at Biden, you’re mad at everyone else.

          That’s where we disagree.

          I constantly heard “Biden isn’t a dictator” as an excuse for his inaction, but funding a genocide is an overt action he refuses to stop. And even went around Congress at one point.

          He’s throwing away all his integrity, and people aren’t trusting him anymore.

          • @disguy_ovahea
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            27 months ago

            While I completely agree that the US should pull all aid from Israel and hold them accountable to International Law, you forget that almost half of Congress and US citizens still support Israel’s actions. Granted, it’s likely due to media bias, but that doesn’t change the fact that the President represents them as well.

            https://zeteo.com/p/gaza-israel-genocide-poll-ceasefire-us-voters

            • @givesomefucks
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              -27 months ago

              you forget that almost half of Congress and US citizens still support Israel’s actions.

              You mean republicans?

              • @disguy_ovahea
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                07 months ago

                Mostly, yes. A Democratic President is just as responsible for representing them as they are Democrats. I wish it weren’t true, but that’s the job.

                • @givesomefucks
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                  07 months ago

                  But he’s not representing the people that voted for him…

                  He’s doing what the people who will never vote for him and we’re constantly told are dangerous idiots want to happen.

                  Why?