Mehdi’s Memo on the results of our new poll on Gaza and Iran

  • @givesomefucks
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    28 months ago

    But I am not a single issue voter.

    Hardly anyone is…

    “Single issue voter” is bullshit to fracture a unified base that’s rallied around one cause. Absolutely none of them literally only care about this and nothing else.

    It’s just when lots of average people rally around one common issue, change can happen.

    So the people in power try to fracture that unified base and find something they disagree with.

    It’s all basic psychology. If you stop and think why that always comes up when there’s a large movement for one issue, it’s really obvious

    • @[email protected]
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      8 months ago

      If nobody cares about only one issue then why are people talking about pissing a vote away because:

      • Both candidates have basically the same stance on their number one issue
      • They are too lazy to look at any of their other issues

      But yeah. I agree that nobody is actually a single issue voter. Which is why it is important to understand there is more than one issue at play here.

      Change CAN happen if the two parties have a different stance. republicans got CLOBBERED because a shocking amount of their base actually care about abortion rights. Democrats have not done anywhere near what they fucking should on that front, but they are the pro human rights party… when it comes to that.

      In this case? Both parties have the same stance. It isn’t like letting trump win will at all help the Palestinian people.

      • @givesomefucks
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        8 months ago

        Because:

        Enough is enough

        Gaza is a big issue, and Biden’s treatment of those that disagree with him isn’t that much different than trumps.

        Biden has said the same bullshit about recent protests that Trump said about BLM.

        People see that, and it makes them think there’s no chance that they or anyone else can change Biden’s mind about anything else.

        And that’s a bad look when your goal is turning out dem voters.

        You sound like you get that, but instead of being mad at Biden, you’re mad at everyone else.

        That’s where we disagree.

        I constantly heard “Biden isn’t a dictator” as an excuse for his inaction, but funding a genocide is an overt action he refuses to stop. And even went around Congress at one point.

        He’s throwing away all his integrity, and people aren’t trusting him anymore.

        • @disguy_ovahea
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          28 months ago

          While I completely agree that the US should pull all aid from Israel and hold them accountable to International Law, you forget that almost half of Congress and US citizens still support Israel’s actions. Granted, it’s likely due to media bias, but that doesn’t change the fact that the President represents them as well.

          https://zeteo.com/p/gaza-israel-genocide-poll-ceasefire-us-voters

          • @givesomefucks
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            -28 months ago

            you forget that almost half of Congress and US citizens still support Israel’s actions.

            You mean republicans?

            • @disguy_ovahea
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              08 months ago

              Mostly, yes. A Democratic President is just as responsible for representing them as they are Democrats. I wish it weren’t true, but that’s the job.

              • @givesomefucks
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                08 months ago

                But he’s not representing the people that voted for him…

                He’s doing what the people who will never vote for him and we’re constantly told are dangerous idiots want to happen.

                Why?

                  • @givesomefucks
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                    -28 months ago

                    when he’s just spinelessly following all of his predecessors

                    Even Ronald Reagan cut off aid to Israel due to their actions against Palestinians which was way less than this.

                    Obama also drew lines, and Israel didn’t cross them. Even though Biden argued with Obama over it

                    Part of that was probably Obama didn’t spend half a century loudly proclaiming that he’ll always support them.

                    Bill Clinton held Israel to a higher standard as well

                    This ain’t a binary thing, very few things are.

                    Biden unwavering support of Israel isn’t normal for either party