I admire the students that are setting up book clubs for banned books. They are recognizing that they are being given a list of what they should read.
They’re also evidence of why the book banning doesn’t really work as well today as conservatives would like it to.
Book banning was an effective way of controlling what your young population was exposed to before the internet and social media. It worked best when the young weren’t even aware of the information they were being denied.
But social media is making sure they’re all very much aware of what has been hidden from them. They know what’s going on. You will find teenagers in particular are kind of resistant to being told no by an authority, so they’re going to do something about it.
Now, don’t feel too excited about this, because there’s a threat here. Every single time you see a conservative talking about more stringent age verification for things on the internet, part of what they’re actually trying to do is create an avenue to control the information kids are exposed to. They are pretty open about how LGBT issues, particularly the T ones, can be labeled as “sexual” and “inappropriate”. With very simple changes to the regulation, they can suppress children’s access to anything they like as long as they make a half-assed argument that it’s “inappropriate”.
It also opens the door to more internet censorship…
Indeed, Internet censorship opens the door to Internet censorship.
Classic Prohibition Blunder
“You’re not allowed to do that” is American for “You’re going to do that, and with as much spite and vinegar as possible.”
fReeDuM
How can you ban a book and say there’s free speech? Only with fReeDuM logic
Those who erase history are attempting to repeat it
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Reading the bible is the quickest way to make atheists
Depends if someone feeds you interpretation at the same time.
I find it interesting that even then they slip up. Not Christian but ex Muslim, and even if I had stuck to learning only what Iranians mullahs and the nationalized education system wanted me to learn, I would still think Wtf is this BS?! And just that did happen.
Religious nut jobs and authoritarians have their sense of morality so twisted they see some of the fucked up parts of their beliefs as normal for others as well.
Well, if they were capable of empathy they probably wouldn’t be in that position.
Then I think they weren’t very good scholars. I find Christian scholars like the Jesuits very talented in twisting the language and ideas until it fits their ideology.
Besides, I do think interpretation is required to read such books without taking silly interpretation shortcuts, but I’d rather have it from a secular religion history researcher.
Edit: I was thinking about this scholastic system of education from the Middle Ages that made them so good at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputation
Worked for me. I was seeking answers and only got more confused.
If people really distanced themselves from religion like they say, then the Bible would be one of the greatest fucking fiction books literature ever produced.
My high school English teacher did this, although we didn’t know it at the time. It wasn’t until I was doing an essay on banned books in college that I realized all of the ones we read in his class were banned. Really made me appreciate him more.
That’s awesome.
Fun trick I do with my children is to way things like “Oh yeah you don’t want that. It’s forbidden” if I want them to read more about it.
You’re parent clickbait. “Honey, that’s one of the twelve things THEY don’t want you to know about!”
Linux isn’t allowed in this house honey.
More like “Based books” amirite
Like good old eugenics books 👍👍
Wdym?
“Hey there’s a book about Minecraft - wait no it says ‘Mein Kampf’…”
i bet that one is allowed in most of these lists
Not in Germany… (it’s banned outside of school too)
Not true, you can even buy it on Amazon if you really want to.
I don’t think it’s legal though or is it?
It’s legal. An annotated version, with neither the swastika nor a picture of the greasy Nazi fuck, was published a few years back and tens of thousands were sold, primarily to German libraries and schools. It’s a good study on how shitheads think.
Now that makes sense. I do believe the original is banned, leading to people (including me) thinking that it is banned period.
“Mein Kampf” was never banned.
The copyright was held by the state of Bavaria as the official heir of Hitler and they simply said “Nope, no new printings.”
As the copyright ran out in 2015 everyone can copy and print it again. Though most don’t care, even the most right wing nutcracks realize that the book is rather badly written.
I often buy books written by shitheads when I end up studying fascism or other radical right wing movements. Heck, even more mainstream conservative movements with radical imagery or frequent dogwhistles. Reading books by shitty people on shitty topics is very important on understanding how the movements work and think.
Reading about fascism from antifascists is good and all, but understanding fascist movements when they are most active requires reading fascist works. Heck, even with books like Mien Kampf, a book with a ton of analysis done by antifascists could still be a potentially useful read for antifascists.
That’s smart. I can’t count how many times I’ve learned about new dogwhistles or the details of various ideologies and realized an acquaintance was a fascist and/or racist sack of shit, although I’ve never been surprised. This would help me realize in real-time, so I can call them out on their shit.
I do feel like I’d need a book cover with something like “I’m reading -book title- to understand scumbags. I do not support its ideology”.
iirc it wasn’t exactly banned in germany. Iirc the state of bavaria held the copyright and sued everyone who sold the book without their consent, while not printing any copies themselves.
The Anarchist Cookbook is on the reading list
I mean it really should be, it’s basic ASVAB.
If you are considering a military career this book is the civilian key to EOS or OCS.
I know all these letters… maybe I should read the book to understand you.
EOS is a cryptocurrency, OCS is the office of community service
You’re welcome
And ASVAB? Agency for Super Villains And Babies?
Armed Service Vocational Aptitude Battery - AKA the “Are you stupid, and what can you do?” test.
Surprisingly, I wasn’t too far off…
EOS is a type of medical imaging, OCS is oral corticosteroids.
A google search or a 5 min convo with a Mil recruiter would highlight all three.
Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery
Explosive Ordinance School
Officer Candidate School
If you don’t know any of them maybe you should do some basic internet searches. It would make you look like less of an idiot for not recognizing ASVAB. It’s literally a basic aptitude test.
Congrats your country filtered you into E1.
Most people don’t live in the US and don’t know or care about US military abbreviations.
I always hate this viewpoint that if someone doesn’t understand what someone else is saying on a website designed to facilitate conversation, they should Google it instead of asking.
Aside from that, it really makes you look like a heel for using jargon and chiding other people for not knowing it.
Moreover, they are talking about military service being relevant or close to 99% of other vocations or daily lives of civilians.
Especially when you’re in a community about comic strips.
I did a basic internet search for EOS and OCS, and I found lip balm and a cannabis dispensary.
If you’re using a TLA (three letter acronym) you should probably recognize that some acronyms are common and have multiple interpretations.
If you’re concerned about people looking like an idiot for asking questions, you should probably be aware that calling people an idiot for seeking information has the opposite result.
Congrats your country filtered you into E1.
Only if they’re looking for cannon fodder. I’m 46 and chronically ill.
I don’t think I need to know any military abbreviations.
Like there isn’t going to be eight million different explanations in Google for acronyms with letters as common as EOS or OCS. Have you never used Google?
Personally I read eos as endeavouros. Also ASVAB is an aptitude test by the USMEPCOM (United States Military Entrance Processing Command) So not only is it irrelevant for the average bloke that doesn’t want to serve in the military but also for anyone not in the US. (At least if other countries do use this test I missed that) Also Office of Community Services was first mentioned in the 27th result on Google when I searched for OCS.
Moral of the story, just because you find it easily at your location and with your browsing habits doesn’t mean it’s that easy for everyone else. Please keep this in mind next time someone asks about the meaning of an acronym.
If you’re posting something, it’s your job to do so in a way that people can understand your posts. Posting a bunch of industry-specific acronyms and then being condescending when someone asks you to clarify because they didn’t go and do homework on your stupid post doesn’t make them look dumb, it makes you look like a smug prick.
Mother-in-law recruiter?!?
I believe that’s called a fiancee.
Hey hey why so much aggression. Is that to deflect something you miss?
Where do you get filtered into if you’re too dumb to realize that half the shit in the Anarchist’s Cookbook is actually completely wrong, and act belligerent about it anyway?
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Parents: We must ban all the books we disagree with!
Kids: That’s fine, no one reads physical books anymore anyways. Just don’t touch the library internet filter - we are getting tired of finding ways around the block list.
One answer: libgen
Zlib
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Okay you win
Like gay porn?
like shell shockers
Nazi Germany banned and burned a shit ton of books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authors_banned_in_Nazi_Germany
Been reading The Keeper of Hidden Books, by Madeline Martin and it’s a pretty good read.
Because that’s what heroes do.
I’ve never fallen in love with a goddamn comic strip character like this.
im starting my early education degree in this because of people banning books :)
And the name of that teacher?
Streisand.Those who are fighting against history being taught intend to repeat it.
Literally 1984
