"Vladimir Putin is testing the waters on whether the U.S. is ready to engage in talks for ending Russia’s war in Ukraine,” Bloomberg reports.
“He’s put out feelers to the U.S. via indirect channels to signal he’s open to discussion, including potentially on future security arrangements for Ukraine, according to two people close to the Kremlin.”
“Hints of Russian openness to talks — even if disingenuous — could help sow division among Ukraine’s allies, isolating Kyiv and undermining President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s efforts to win support for his own peace formula, which calls for full Russian withdrawal.”
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including potentially on future security arrangements for Ukraine
Ukraine already signed a security, non-aggression arrangement with Russia back when they annexed Crimea. Russia violated that one, so why would Ukraine expect Russia to not violate this one?
“Sure, we haven’t kept any of the 1,000 previous promises, but this time is different. Trust me, bro.”
Like an abusive manipulative ex.
Like Lucy with the football 🏈
That’s not even the big one, when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, Russia and America both said they would defend them.
Between Ukraine and Libya, who the fuck is ever gonna give up their nukes anymore?
exactly, any negotiations will not be in good faith at all and will be ignored in the future because are no consequences for breaking them
Russia wants to end the war since they have gotten themselves into a boondoggle. They don’t even control major cities they claim to have annexed. No, Russia’s quick victory is now a multi-year war of attrition and they want to stop now as they continue to see the devastating losses mount. Just in the last day Russia lost hundreds of men, dozens of tanks, dozens of APCs, and dozens of artillery units:
If Russia was in a strong position now there would be no point trying to negotiate now when theres a 50:50 chance trump is in power next year and massively strengthens their hand.
There’s the good question. The US and EU are really close to taking the 400 billion of Russian money currently frozen in Western banks. That could have something to do with it.
Previous cease fires have only been used to gather for another attempt. There’s also no reason to suppose they mind these casualties; their meat grinder tactics are intended to generate horrifying losses, specifically to demoralise.
Yeah, the problem with that though is it cuts both ways.
A lot of civilians- specifically widows and mothers and babuskas… want their husbands and sons and grandsons home; but they haven’t been told all that’s left is some burnt teeth and ash.
I never said it was right, just that disregard for human life is a very traditional and continuing aspect of Russian military doctrine. It’s important to understand that Russia has been grim as fuck since… At least as far back as Ivan the Terrible.
Can I just say how much I love the fact that babushka took the place of grandma in that.
All English till right there and it just fits so well
it’s well known that you don’t mess with Babuskas.
even more so than other varieties of grandma.
The meat grinder worked back before the days of tiktok and the like. News would get back to Moscow minus the horrific death tolls, nowadays everyone can see what’s actually happening.
This war ends with Putin dragged into the streets and his remains being hosed down into the sewer.
That would end the war, but Russia will quickly put another gangster in charge. Those people have forever been, and forever will be, unable to self-govern.
I don’t know if microblogging is going to save the day here. Russia rarely does anything besides get worse.
The thing Putin wants to avoid is NATO realizing they are much stronger actually united than dependent on American weapons manufacturers and then building up their own production capacity.
That’s not how negotiating must work.
Putin can negotiate now, thus validating trump “peace keeping” if elected. He can say “ice been trying for a year, save me trump, pull out?”
Ignore the feelers. Keep supplying Ukraine. When the feelers become active begging, consider talking.
Go fuck yourself, Vlad.
whether the U.S. is ready to engage in talks for ending Russia’s war in Ukraine
I wasn’t aware that the USA is the authority in what wars do and don’t happen on the planet Earth.
I was under the impression that was down to the nations actually at war, but I guess no, it’s not actually up to Zelensky and Putin, they don’t get a say in it, it’s all up to Biden?
It’s fair to say that if the US fully backed out Ukraine’s position would drastically change.
Before you reply, remember that if the US backed out, they would expect similar from all of western Europe
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