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As reported exclusively by russian sources at the moment, he lost consciousness after a walking hour and prison medics were unsuccessful in reanimating him, as per sources in УФСИН (government body regulating prisons and punishment). He was 47 years old at that time. The last time he was heard of he was moved from Moscow-based prison into the IK-3 named Polar Wolf, a penal colony located in a permafrost region near the town of Harp, where he found his end.
No other sources commented on that by now. At that time, there’s no independent proof of that or other explanations but the one given by prison authorities.
A fitting reminder is that presidential elections are to be held in 15-17 of March, meaning it happened exactly one month prior to them.
Russia desperately needs another revolution.
I don’t know how you are proficient in russian history, but we have a thing called гонка на лафетах. At some point soviet administration grew that old they all died off in a decade, without coming up with a next gen of rulers. I feel like in a coming decade there would be a lot of funerals and the new chaotic 90s for Russia, Iran, that would be very painful for these nations, but it’d be another chance to start it right, at least as a lib democracy. People say I’m too dumb and optimistic, but there’s still no successor to Putin and he’s born in 1952, and the clocks are ticking. He and his friends are just to afraid to lose their place so they don’t bother with that, meaning it would be a complete hell when they’d die one by one.
This framing sounds like great man theory, which is popular with liberals but not with historical materialists.
I call it institutionalized history, and yeah, history as a science was hurt by it up to the point we associate societal and economical changes with tzars, kings, presidents, ruling institutions who had no part in many oncoming natural changes. They didn’t start things like industrial revolution, they just tried to acconodate to it. Still, the chronology of our school course of history is tied to them.
Yet, in that exact case, I think it’s correct to tie the current regime to one personality or one group of people since they collected all power over the country in their hands. And them dying would definetely change the route of russian politics.
You’re better situated than me for understanding the current power dynamics in Russia. Here in Burgerland we’re always told Putler is all powerful and uniquely evil, like some cartoon villain.
Like any good cartoon villain, Putin has enough in his biography to explain basically everything about his character, at whatever point of his life - it just doesn’t make the villain less evil and deserving of being removed from any sort of power and, hopefully, put to justice, with the former being imperative.
that’s interesting to hear from your perspective, thanks for the insight. When I read these headlines I always wonder what real Russians think
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There are rumors that Putin is very sick. So it might be sooner than 10 years.
I think it’s as copium though. He’s very concerned about his own health, we have many proofs about that, and it’s obvious he’s a paranoic, but I don’t think he’s more ill than any gramps at 71, and he has the best medical support availiable in Russia. But yeah, I don’t see him surviving another ten years. Not because of the said illness, would it be cancer or Parkinson’s, but because his dick wiggling in Ukraine put many of his partners and their assets at risk, and his authority is wanishing with each new day this war lasts. I’d be very surprised if he’d die due to natural causes. Don’t quote me on that, but if new reelection and a coming mobilization won’t change anything, he’d have all chances for his bunker to be welded shut and flooded. Yet another sort of copium, if you think about it, but the one I personally can bet at, learning about a den of snakes he collected around him.
The media here have been saying he’s at death’s door on like on a weekly basis for the last two years. Pure propaganda.
Yeah. Our oppositional media bathed in that copium too. And the only thing that shit does is stopping EU\US politicians from proper counter-measures, thinking the problem would solve itself. No, Jack, it wouldn’t.
Not another neoliberal shock therapy revolution, like Atlantic Council / New American Century stans want, it doesn’t.
Correct. Bad revolution is bad but good revolution would be good.
Definitely not one which Alexei “Caucasians are cockroaches” Navalny would have anything to do with.
Speak for yourself
What were his politics?
Take it with a grain of salt as I’m from here and I can’t be objective about him or local politics.
At the start of his political career before 2011 it was all over the place, including nationalistic marshes, pro-gun rhetoric and basic agitation against funding national republics of Caucasus (they have negative balance and are helped by dotations from the center). Not to the levels of actual fascist like NOD or Dugin fans, but still very shitty. It’s still argued if he was opportunistic or genuinelly supported all of that, and it’s pointless imho. I can see most average persons from some Volgograd or Tambov saying the same or worse. Yet - he was caught on camera and it’s forever archived.
After co-triggering Bolotnaya and other demonstrations he dropped that pov and got onto the platform of fighting corruption, to get honest, legit elections and tried to elect himself and other oppositioners into power. Since that, he came to be pro-European and anti-Putin politician. His program was basically that — let’s retire these old friends and partners, who in his opinion are a middle between a mafia and a late soviet nomenclature. and see if a peaceful transfer to some more liberal Russia is possible. He wasn’t all that savvy about making an original program, but he was a talented organizer and public speaker that put a lot of orgs and people together for numerous protest actions, he became a face of a brand for all public anti-establishment talks, a man and a vehicle if you will.
The other bad thing many remember was in 2014, where he was asked about the faith of Crimea and he said ‘it’s not a sandwich for it to casually change hands’ for what he had backlash for years to come, even though he tried to walk it back and explain many times after that. It too was a stain on his reputation, but imho after seeing how failing ratings of Putin jumped over Crimea’s capture and how regular people celebrated it (and forgot that Luhansk and Donetsk were on fire at the same time), he could’ve thought he’d shoot himself in the foot by vouching against it – although Nemtsov, the soon-to-be-dead oppositioner I liked more, did just that.
I’d say he doesn’t really have any politics, so he’s probably a liberal europe-centric politician. If he could become the next pres, he wouldn’t probably change anything but introducing democratisation and transparency of the government. His value for me and other angry russians is that he collected a lot of other oppositional persons who usually waste all their time arguing with each other and nitpicking each other’s words. He’s not the best, like mentioned Nemtsov or Novodvorskaya, but he was alive and he did something when most were passive.
I hope I answered your curiosity. If you held some vision of him asking that (I think you do, since you are from lemmy.ml) lay it there. This person was very complicated and there were many different opinions about him from a kremlin agent, to a fascist, to a savior, to a rubber duck. Whatever, I feel like he didn’t deserve dying in prison like that, thus I was very displeased hearing he’s dead.
Nice answer, thank you.
So, Navalny was xenophobic at the beginning. Central Asian countries don’t want to hear about his xenophobic statements.
I don’t feel like you’ve read my comment to the end.
Muslims are cockroaches, Crimea deserved it, deep nationalism.
Basically, fascism with a 21st century coat of paint.
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There’s an awesome doc: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/navalny
If you find Five Eyes hagiographic propaganda to be awesome, then sure.
Heartbreaking: Elon Musk is right: Bellingcat’s a psy-op
How Bellingcat Launders National Security State Talking Points into the Press
Loads of reading to do. TY