• @Raykin
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    1206 months ago

    Weather you like it or not, we have a mountain of hard choices in front of us. And nobody seems willing to climate.

  • PatFusty
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    486 months ago

    It’s probably the methane leaking from the poles that everyone has been saying will cause unexpected bullshit for decades

    • modifier
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      696 months ago

      Look we can’t start blaming individual countries - even if Poland has unusually gassy citizens, I just don’t think they are a large enough population to make that kind of difference.

      • @Plopp
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        166 months ago

        I don’t know… I had Polish pea soup once and I farted basically all night long. Imagine an entire nation doing that, every night. We might be on to something here.

    • @jordanlundM
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      146 months ago

      That’s the sort of comment that gets brought up on the news following a shooting. We won’t allow talk of “making lists”, especially in the context of your other removed comments calling for violence.

      • @[email protected]
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        You don’t seem to allow much of anything, lately. It’s all remove this, ban that.

        Your instance truly makes Lemmy feel like Reddit at its worst.

        • @jordanlundM
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          26 months ago

          The wall of removed comments were spam. Deservedly removed.

    • @[email protected]
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      456 months ago

      Already taken into account, as well as other phenomena such as El Ninjo. Even if you add up the worst case scenarios for all known mechanisms the measured numbers are above that, there’s a gap in the models and it’s not in our favour.

  • @Bruncvik
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    26 months ago

    I watched a video on Youtube (so take it with a grain of salt) that claimed that the current climate models don’t take into account the reflectivity of the clouds. When these are included, the models appear to be far more accurate. (I only have a passing interest in the topic, no expertise, so I likely misrepresented the conclusions. If you are interested more watch the video yourself.)

    • @[email protected]B
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      26 months ago

      Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

      video

      Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

      I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

  • Goku
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    -346 months ago

    Maybe the molten core is boiling and slowly rising to the surface, resulting in increase of temperature.

    • Neato
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      226 months ago

      It’s not because of the below, but that’s a neat B-movie plot along the same lines as The Core.

    • ShadowRam
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      106 months ago

      The earth generally has an overall fixed rate at which it can radiate heat into space.

      We dig up millions of years of stored solar energy and release it as heat.

      I really don’t understand why people are surprised. Sure, it can get really complicated as you factor in varying cloud cover, solar output, greenhouse effect.

      But long-term trend, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that every joule of energy we pull out of stored carbon, or even mass->energy via nuclear. We are generating more heat now than the earth is used to radiating out.

      So obviously the average temperature is going to increase.

      Even if we find ways to store the energy back, it takes energy to do so, and therefore more waste heat in the end.

      If we want to cool the planet, we have to increase the rate that we radiate heat out into space.

  • @FMT99
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    -726 months ago

    When a year or month is not as warm we always say “you can’t judge on a single outlier, the average is upwards” Maybe 2023 will not turn out to be an outlier and it needs to be examined of course (and I know people are) but there’s also no need to immediately go to “we’re in uncharted waters.” Not to mention weaselly headlines like “we could be…” immediately make me lose all confidence in the author.

    Media sensationalism is part of the problem even when we think they’re agreeing with us.

    • @WaxedWookie
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      516 months ago

      It’s the scientific community giving an exasperated “we’re fucked”, my guy.

      It’s all outliers and constant “once a century” weather events these days.

      • @bmsok
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        Yup. These are expert scientists with their hands up in the air explaining how this shit is exponentially hitting the fan.

        This is an inflection point. The fire alarms are blaring.

        They should get every penny of funding available to deal with this.

        • @grue
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          216 months ago

          It’s not just about funding the scientists; it’s about defunding the pollution (e.g. quit massively subsidizing roads and parking).

    • Neato
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      276 months ago

      Yeah. It’s only been…almost every month for the past several years has been the hottest on record ever. Definitely just a fluke,

  • @[email protected]
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    -786 months ago

    It’s AI, cloud storage, and cellular internet. That’s a whole lot of microwave radiation and straight thermal radiation that didn’t exist ten years ago, and it’s growing fast. The additional heat build-up from our tech is outstripping our ability to compensate for it.

      • @cucumber_sandwich
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        -26 months ago

        Radiation from communication infrastructure is hardly waste heat.

          • @cucumber_sandwich
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            -26 months ago

            It’s whole purpose is to radiate specific radio waves…

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              Yes, and it’s not infrared.

              Do you think the purpose of telecom systems is to produce heat? What the hell do you think waste heat even is?

              Waste heat is heat that is produced by a machine, or other process that uses energy, as a byproduct of doing work.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_heat

              • @cucumber_sandwich
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                16 months ago

                Yes of course they proceduce waste heat as well. I was referring to the microwave part in the root comment…

                • @[email protected]
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                  16 months ago

                  Ahh right I see, I got very confused by the way you worded the comment but that may well have been a problem here on the receiving end

    • @SoleInvictus
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      416 months ago

      Please stop spreading misinformation. You’re on the internet. Kindly fact check yourself in the future. It’s better for everyone, including you!

      • @Plopp
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        86 months ago

        But fact checking utilizes CPU cycles and thus heats up the planet!

    • @LeafOnTheWind
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      356 months ago

      Well that’s the stupidest thing I’ve seen yet today