• u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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    1578 months ago

    Not shown: The top 0.05% - “Use whichever distro you’re satisfied with. The different distributions exist to offer choice, not to compete.”

    • @[email protected]
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      488 months ago

      Seriously… At SCaLE this year I saw people from various distro booths taking breaks and visiting other distro booths. Each time they looked genuinely interested and excited about what the other distro was doing.

        • @[email protected]
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          358 months ago

          Almost like humans find cooperation is healthier than competition on the whole…

          FOSS til i die, please.

          • @[email protected]
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            128 months ago

            “Don’t compete! — competition is always injurious to the species, and you have plenty of resources to avoid it!” -Pjotr Kropotkin

        • @[email protected]
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          208 months ago

          I kinda feel like there’s very little overlap between distro fans and distro developers. Probably because distro devs tend to know all the dirty secrets of their distro.

          You go on Reddit or wherever and it’s all “distro X is evil, use distro Y instead,” “No, Y is terrible! Use Z!” And then you sit at a table with a SuSE developer, a Fedora developer and an Ubuntu developer and the conversation is all “so how are you guys dealing with this issue?” “Oh, I think we came up with a great solution, I’ll share the patch set with you!” “Wonderful, thanks! By the way I opened up a merge request on your stuff because we figured out how to fix that namespaces issue.”

    • @ChicoSuave
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      108 months ago

      Capitalism thrives on exclusivity, teaching people that others doing the same thing is competition and not friendship.

  • @rtxnM
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    988 months ago

    Read this and your brain might get a new wrinkle: it’s possible to appreciate multiple distributions for their own merits.

  • @[email protected]
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    868 months ago

    Well, I’m still in the noob stage and i intend to stay there. My OS is just a means to an end and Mint is perfect for that.

    • folkrav
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      168 months ago

      That’s fine. Most people aren’t “Windows pros” either.

    • @[email protected]
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      98 months ago

      Saaaame. Been using Mint almost exclusively for 5-10 yrs and i still feel like im playing in the wading pool of what u can do with it. I learn more as I need to, and generally enjoy that process. I always feel super satisfied with myself when i use the terminal, even if its sudo apt-get install Firefox.

      • @[email protected]
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        8 months ago

        Whenever I need to do something, I’ll figure it out. Sometimes it’s a pain, like getting VNC to work. But then I’ll write down the most important bits and duly forget the rest. I just want this stuff to work.

  • DumbAceDragon
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    718 months ago

    I see more posts complaining about annoying arch users than I actually see annoying arch users

    That being said, hell yeah mint

    • User
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      298 months ago

      Arch user here. Mint is cool. Go mint!

        • @kronarbob
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          38 months ago

          Pacstall is AUR for Ubuntu (so UUR?) based distributions. It is certainly less complete than AUR, but still it might be useful depending on your needs.

            • @kronarbob
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              18 months ago

              I’d rather trust an Ubuntu community repo than the snap store. At least, for pacstall, the community is able to review the package.

              Since the snap store is the default store on Ubuntu , there is more chance that he will be targeted by malicious software than a community repo than has to be manually installed.

  • @3volver
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    478 months ago

    Linux Mint has been good so far, but Debian is still the one I’m going to use mainly.

      • TimeSquirrel
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        8 months ago

        At that point, what are you using Mint for? The Cinammon DE?

        IMHO, KDE feels much more modern, while Cinammon kind of feels like it’s stuck in 2003. It reminds me of the stock gray boxy Windows 9x/NT/2000 interface.

        • Phuntis
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          178 months ago

          I love cinnamon it’s the main reason I use mint I tried debian with mint but the theming was ugly but the cinnamon on mint mmm beautiful I find it very comfortable and familiar like all the good parts of windows 7 just with a tad bit more modern design

        • Captain Aggravated
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          78 months ago

          I stuck an Arc theme on it and that modernized it a lot.

          To me, Cinnamon sits somewhere between the extremes of Gnome and KDE.

          Gnome is an Android launcher with a concussion. Every major update is a list of things it can’t do anymore. Hopefully by Gnome 52 the system won’t even POST let alone boot. Every utility is a blank window with an empty menu up in the top bar that does as little of its job as it can, apparently in service to some “blank is beautiful” aesthetic.

          KDE feels like the control panel of a nuclear power plant, LOADS of crap everywhere. Widgets and wodgets and panels and sidebars where does it end? Every utility is an incorrectly sized window completely crammed full of drop downs, radio buttons and text fields with several tabs and sub-menus with lots of options, because what if esoteric use case?

          Cinnamon is a middle ground in between; they have a “most users, most of the time” approach so that UIs are understandable and digestible, and usually let you do what you want to do, without being uselessly blank or obsessively crowded.

          Cinnamon doesn’t need therapy, Gnome and KDE do.

    • @kuneho
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      148 months ago

      hell yeah debian

    • @[email protected]
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      98 months ago

      Yeah I agree with the sentiment, use whatever is good for you, but I feel like most advanced linux users are not using Mint. They typically come to the realization that everything is either Debian, Arch, or build it yourself so they use one of those.

      • jelloeater - Ops Mgr
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        18 months ago

        Man, might swap to Debian 12, trying it on my netbook, it’s nice.

        • LoudWaterHombre
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          38 months ago

          I’m running Debian 12 for while now and it works great. Gossip says you need to get everything from flatpak because the packages are so outdated, but that’s bullshit.

          • jelloeater - Ops Mgr
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            18 months ago

            I get newer packages on my netbook then my desktop running u Ubuntu 22.04.

    • @chronicledmonocle
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      18 months ago

      Hell Cinnamon DE is literally an install option on Debian. LOL.

  • @[email protected]
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    238 months ago

    Use Linux professionally. Worked with RHEL for years. Current gig uses Debian servers. Daily driver is a system 76 machine with the pop OS that came on it. Debian derivatives make great daily drivers for those of us that just need a browser, terminal, working wifi, and the ability to build and run containers.

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    8 months ago
    • Don’t forget, that the Mint developers and developers of other “user-friendly distros” do very hard work, so you can enjoy less-hassle distro.
    • But it is very boring for “Never Settle” philosophy to use such distros.
    • Don’t forget, that some people enjoy tinkering thing around them. Mint, Pop!_OS, Fedora etc are simply not interesting for them. They choose the hardest possible way and enjoy it.
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      128 months ago

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    • @[email protected]
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      118 months ago

      My first “daily driver” distro was Arch, and i love every minute of it.

      It’s a tinkerer’s dream

  • @chronicledmonocle
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    218 months ago

    The true Linux users are the ones that realize that all Linux is the same. The only differences is package management, Desktop Environment, and customization by the Distro creator.

    You can literally just install Debian stable with Cinnamon DE and get basically Linux Mint on Debian. Bonus points for adding backports so you get a slightly more updated kernel.

    I know this is a joke, but you should use whatever distro you want to use…because at the end of the day it’s all Linux.

  • spez
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    188 months ago

    I don’t have any need for arch, fedora is fine as it is. Might try arch if I have more reliable internet someday, my main concern is my system going brrrr one evening when I need to do some important legal work.

  • @[email protected]
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    8 months ago

    The only way to win the argument is to come up with an association that has nothing to do with computers at all.

    I use Linux Mint because I like Mint Ice Cream

  • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє
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    Different distros are better at different things. Need a stable distro for your grandma? Use Debian or Mint. Need latest software? Use Arch or Gentoo. (And people do need latest software sometimes. For playing games, or in my case, for doing research. The F is FOSS stands for Free after all.) Similarly, there are server distros like AlmaLinux tuned for high reliability. I think it’s counterproductive to argue about the “best” distro.

    I guess the meme technically doesn’t say that Mint is the best, but it kinda gives off that feeling by ridiculing Arch users.

  • @[email protected]
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    148 months ago

    I use Fedora more (at work) but I love the concept and execution of Mint. I’ll definitely use it on future personal machines.

    I’m not an expert on distros, but it seems to me like the best drop-in replacement for Windows. It’s familiar for windows users, but it feels much better to use. That combination is great for getting normal people to consider using it.