- Colombia has requested permission from the International Court of Justice to intervene in South Africa’s case against Israel for genocide in Gaza, aiming to protect Palestinian safety and existence.
- The ICJ has ordered Israel to ensure timely food supplies to Gaza and previously instructed Israel to refrain from actions under the genocide convention and to prevent genocidal acts against Palestinians, which Israel denies, attributing its actions to targeting Hamas rather than civilians.
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I would imagine they’d be seen as incredibly biased since they all hate the shit out of Israel and many of them aren’t exactly democratic.
When you have South Africa, Ireland and now Colombia stepping up to the plate it brings more weight IMO.
Plus South Africa and Ireland have a special bond with Palestine due to their own past as victims of especially awful colonialist atrocities. They get what Gaza is going through better than most other countries that anyone in the West will listen to.
They also, get money from Iran.
Yeah because even IF that’s true, that’s SUPER relevant 🙄
Iran is pretty much the central consideration in any matter of mid east policy. If you don’t see the relevance I’m not sure you have any credibility to talk about this, like at all.
Yeah because it can’t be that they care about the Israeli government committing genocide and a shitload of other crimes against humanity because those actions are bad things to do 🙄
Diplomatic relations with Iran and lack of same is completely irrelevant to the facts of the matter.
Iran isn’t forcing the Israeli government to massacre and starve to death tens of thousands of civilians, most of whom are children.
Iran cares about human rights? Their world view does not recognize human rights that cannot be instantly suspended in the name of religious superstition or fear. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.
Tens of thousands of people starved to death?
What?
Oh bugger off!!! You can’t even accept credible sources. Maybe YOU should stop talking nonsense all over every day
These are also all countries that have experiences with human rights abuses.
Saudi is a US alley.
Egypt is under a dictatorship after the military removed the elected official. Egypt hasn’t been the same since France tricked them by pretending to be allies.
Turkey is like two bad moves from being nuked by either US or Russia (Russia falling would seriously relieve a ton of pressure off Turkey and Syria).
Libya still has no government.
Iraq is run by rapist opioid lords set up by Bush II.
Syria is occupied by Russia, Israel, a crappy dictator, and ISIS.
I’m honestly not sure why Lebanon seems to be going bad.
Saudi, US, and Israel have been doing Gaza tactics in Yemen for a long time. They still are the only country helping Palestine. Israel is actually running out of cars which is ironic as they blew up so many Palestinian cars about 12 months ago.
Biden’s spokespeople have assured me there is no genocide, so this is all quite odd
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Sad to see a failed state still get caught up in identity politics. Maybe they should focus on things at home.
Is this the genocide case started by south Africa? Isn’t south Africa currently supporting Russia?
They don’t support Russia in any way that is conceivably comparable to how the US, UK, or Germany are supporting Israel. There is no equivalency.
Yes they fucking do https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/12/world/africa/south-africa-russia-us-lawmakers.html
Fucking hypocrites.
That’s a shaky, unproven allegation for something that is far far far far faaaaaaar less intense compared to the West’s support for Israeli crimes.
It has nothing to do with Russia. It’s a formal process started by South Africa (who have a long-standing interest in Palestinian human rights because of Apartheid). They have so far been formally joined by Nicaragua and now Colombia.
A bunch of other countries have expressed support and may join at a future date, including Ireland and the African Union.
Every second we spent talking about Palestine is time we aren’t talking about Russia. Do the maths and u try pretebd u care about saving the maximum number of human lives possible and u will find that Palestine means nothing compared to the Russian threat.
Agree. That’s why Israelis should cease fire immediately, dismantle the occupation and apartheid, recognize Palestine and pay reparations. So we can focus on what’s actually dangerous to world peace.
Let’s focus on the small little distraction fish while the big fish is getting away Scott free.
genocide: small little distraction fish
War crimes maybe genocide nope. Genocide requires intention the soldier civilian ratio is almost identical to that of comparable heigh density warfare.
Occupation requires an opposing military force.
Apartheid requires minority rule over the majority.
Consider this post the dismantling you’re waiting for.
Occupation is what every country in the world calls the situation.
Apartheid is what apartheid scholars, human rights groups, South Africans who went through apartheid, Israeli peace organizations and Palestinians (you know, the people directly affected) are calling the situation.
Your little attempt at dictionary lawyering is no argument.
I went to school with some of these apartheid scholars and don’t value their opinions.
Wow, for someone who went to school in 1940s Butterworth, South Africa, with Desmond Tutu, you must be extremely tech savvy to be writing on Lemmy. What an awesome old person you must be.
Keep up the denial
Apartheid:Amnesty International has analysed Israel’s intent to create and maintain a system of oppression and domination over Palestinians and examined its key components: territorial fragmentation; segregation and control; dispossession of land and property; and denial of economic and social rights. It has concluded that this system amounts to apartheid. Israel must dismantle this cruel system and the international community must pressure it to do so. All those with jurisdiction over the crimes committed to maintain the system should investigate them.
In contrast, many prominent international institutions, organizations and bodies—including the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, UN General Assembly (UNGA), European Union (EU), African Union, International Criminal Court (ICC) (both Pre-Trial Chamber I and the Office of the Prosecutor), Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch—as well as international legal experts and other organizations, argue that Israel has occupied Palestinian territories including Gaza since 1967.1 While they acknowledge that Israel no longer had the traditional marker of effective control after the disengagement—a military presence—they hold that with the help of technology, it has maintained the requisite control in other ways.
Gaza Blockade is still Occupation
Keep up the irrelevant link spam.
No, we can talk about both and palestine situation is a lot worse.
Rediculous, shallow take.
We don’t set global policy based on how sad the news makes small44.
I can give u 37504418 reasons why the Ukrainian situation is more important.
And compared to the Iranian threat.
Purely cos of population they aren’t too much of a problem. Aren’t they funding Hama’s as well or something?
100,000,000 people live in Iran.
Yes. They fund Hamas. They are religiously chosen to lead a new Islamic Caliphate headquartered in Jerusalem, they think.
Well for now they are behaving themselves and they have openly said they will not move against Israel due to how Hammad was treated when they moved against Israel. Standard fight to end all fights overreaction type thing.
The 100,000,000 peole in Iran all fund genocide?
I guess if you are an American, then you are also funding genocide by this logic. You and every single American in existence.
I think you don’t view Middle Easterners as humans.
Yes they do and Russia is happier than ever. The more that people talk about Israel/Gaza, the less they talk about the Russian strategy in Ukraine being mass murder, rape and torture of civilians.
Wow, those are some serious mental gymnastics, if you think people are only upset about a literal genocide as some sort of distraction.
Still, if that’s what you and @muntedcrocodile genuinely believe, I’d expect you both would be posting articles on the Russian invasion of Ukraine and drawing the kinds of attention you want for that issue.
But when I look at your profiles, neither of you appear to be doing that.
I haven’t posted a single thing for anything on this account go find my .world account and u can see all the Russian shills I argue with.
Okay I went and had a look at it, you’re still not posting any articles. You need to contribute more content on Ukraine if you want people to talk about that content.
The threads part of the fediverse is small, it doesn’t get the paid political astroturfer shills and bots that reddit gets. Most people on here are real people holding real opinions.
You’re not going to win more attention for Ukraine by telling people like me that we are somehow pro-Russian just for caring about a genocide.
So endless arguing with people who are pro Russia and up voting most posts I see pales in comparison to posting about it. Would you be satisfied if I wrote a bot to spam the fediverse?
I’m not saying ur pro Russia I’m simply saying that Palestine is a distraction by every metric and of a magnitude insignificant to that of russia.
Did u know that the civilian solder death ration in Palestine is almost identical to all city based warfare. Is it a war crime probably but then again there are hundreds of those in every war, is it a genocide no.
Did u know that the civilian solder death ration in Palestine is almost identical to all city based warfare.
I know for a fact that’s completely false. The civilian death toll in Gaza is much higher than in comparable conflicts. You’re clearly regurgitating fake facts from Israelis or something.
In fact the Gaza death toll in 5 months was 1.5% of the population (hald of whom are children). For comparison in 2 years the Bosnian Genocide death toll was 3% of the population.
Look I was sympathetic to you wanting people to talk more about Ukraine but trying to derail other conversations and denying a genocide is not cool.
I’m interested in human rights of all kinds and I’m going to talk about all of them as much as I want.
There is no comparable conflict in world history. The tunnels are unprecedented.
Plus the numbers are dropping. 1.5% right now, and people have been saying that number for the last two months. Catastrophic famine has been imminent for four months.
I wish I had time and skill to make a graph of cumulative death toll, month to month, and then extrapolate the number of deaths per day, so we could visualize how the conflict has been winding down almost since it began. By my rough estimation from a few news articles about the death tolls, spread out through March anyway, is that monthly deaths have decreased 20%, month over month. Doesn’t take very many months to see that the genocide apparatus of Israel either doesn’t exist or is utterly incompetent.You know, the death toll has been “1.5%” for two months.
