• @SpruceBringsteen
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    947 months ago

    Not to make you feel old but these movies are over 10 years old.

  • @[email protected]
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    Also, his character in Django Unchained was an inversion of the Magic Negro trope: a very white character who exists solely to develop the main character.

    • deweydecibel
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      In the second and third acts, yes, but he does have his own thing going on in the first act. He’s absolutely an inversion of that trope, but he’s also much more fleshed out than some of the characters he’s an inversion of.

      Which really speaks to how lazy a lot of those writers were when it came time to flesh out their non-white characters.

    • @feedum_sneedson
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      107 months ago

      Was he magic? I don’t remember that bit. Or is that also inverted, the non-magic white guy.

      • mac
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        Not actually magic but the trope is the negro in the past would’ve been “magic” because they help the main character in some way.

    • @[email protected]
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      97 months ago

      That’s a pretty big stretch for his Django character.

      His archetype, you will find, is just called a “mentor”

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetM
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    607 months ago

    Is he though? Sure, he’s great in his roles, but his mannerisms and personality pretty much stay the same regardless of the role. Someone like Gary Oldman, or Ed Norton are far better actors IMO. They disappear into their roles.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      I think these two particular roles had a lot of mannerism overlap. That, and it was the same director in a similarly genred historical fiction revenge thriller. In Alita: Battle Angel and Downsizing, he’s playing different roles. Its just a shame the material doesn’t hold up to his talent for the roles.

      But I’ll also note that Gary Oldman, in particular, really goes ham with the physical transformation. From slick terrorist in Air Force One to manic ex-con in Harry Potter to… Jesus Christ look at all those facial prostheses in Darkest Hour, its not just the acting but the degree to which he’s willing to physically change himself to fit the part.

      Matthew McConaughey and Christian Bale pull this as well, to really intense effect.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetM
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        127 months ago

        Christian Bale is definitely committed to his transformations. A lot of times I still see him in his roles, but he thoroughly sold me on his method acting ability in The Big Short. Holy shit, man! That was like watching a completely different person on the screen.

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          I saw Christian Bale and transformation and I was convinced you were going to bring up The Machinist, he lost a lot of weight for that role.

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          • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetM
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            77 months ago

            Yeah that is one of the examples of him being incredibly committed to his transformations. But I felt that The Big Short really made him stand out as an actor, since the character has such a completely different personality than all of his other characters, and he totally nails it, even with the little quirks.

          • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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            After that role he bulked up to play Bruce Wayne then had to lose weight again because he bulked up too much.

    • @JayObey711
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      Both his most famous roles have a similar way of speaking because the roles are pretty much the same. The efficient and precise German. The genre is also the same. I’ve seen a german comedy of his where he is completely different.

        • @JayObey711
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          77 months ago

          Gott des Gemetzels. It’s pretty good, but the type of movie we had to watch in German class.

          • @[email protected]
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            57 months ago

            I’m only seeing that its original language was English. Did you watch it dubbed in your class?

            • @JayObey711
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              No way. It actually was filmed in English. I did not notice. Walz dubs his own stuff himself. I do faintly remember the movie taking place in France although the actual location was never mentioned I think.

              • Gloomy
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                It plays in NYC.

                One of my favourite movies of all time.

                • @JayObey711
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                  27 months ago

                  Wait what. Ok I’m done. I’m going to delete my account I can’t recover from this. The movie seemed good tho and my point still stands. Christoph Walz does not play the German stereotype and his performance is different from his stereotypical German roles.

    • @SeabassDan
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      I think it’s more his expressions, like the tiny details that make you feel like he’s really the person he’s playing on the screen. Regardless of makeup or physical change, this is noticeable in how Tarantino told him to hold back during rehearsals to really bring out his costars’ reactions in the final take of various scenes. That has nothing to do with what the character is or what he’s wearing or his physical condition.

    • @RGB3x3
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      127 months ago

      I didn’t even know Gary Oldman was both Sirius Black and Commissioner Gordon until like 5 years after those movies came out.

    • deweydecibel
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      How many movies have you seen him in to make a fair comparison?

      His best known roles are very similar, true, but there’s more to being a great actor than just having a lot of range.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetM
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        Only 3 so far. Basterds, the Django one, and Alita. I feel like I’ve probably seen him elsewhere in smaller roles, but I can’t name one, so I’ll stick with three.

  • @Gigan
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    Both characters were German too

  • DigitalTraveler42
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    237 months ago

    Christoph Waltz kills any role he’s in, and the weirder and creepier the better.

    There’s a Prime series called The Consultant it’s so creepy, weird, yet fantastic, and Waltz plays the titular character and when he shows up in the series he cranks the weird up to 11.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppetM
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      He always plays the creepy weird guy though. I don’t think that makes him a great actor, I think that makes him a shoe-in for the roles he’s cast to play. He pretty much just plays himself.

      • DigitalTraveler42
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        97 months ago

        There are always distinct character differences, like the two referenced in this post, also by no means does he only play weird characters, the guy has a 30 year acting career, however he may be getting typecast for the more bizarre roles these days, or maybe he’s like Nick Cage, where he’s more attracted to the weird roles these days, either way, I always enjoy the roles Waltz plays.

    • @DogWater
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      37 months ago

      I don’t recommend ailta battle angel…but he is the best part of it

        • @DogWater
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          Maybe if you are a fan of the source material, but that’s a corny movie.

  • ivanafterall
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    For me, he’s probably #2 on the “can’t pull eyes away from screen” list after Daniel Day Lewis (which is basically cheating).

    • cobysev
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      127 months ago

      Daniel Day Lewis can do some compelling drama roles, but he’s one of those method actors who lives as the character until the film is complete. It can make for some powerful films, but sometimes it turns out like Jared Leto’s Joker. Or Christian Bale’s freakout on set, where he said he was deep in character and some set guy walked through and interrupted the scene.

      • ivanafterall
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        97 months ago

        Oh, I’m sure he’d be miserable to live with and be around. Probably insufferably pretentious. But he’s so good tho.

  • deweydecibel
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    157 months ago

    Criminally underutilized as Blofeld, not once, but twice.

  • IninewCrow
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    117 months ago

    He represents our world perfectly … we love anti-racists … we also love ultra-racists

    • sebinspace
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      We love to hate ultra-racists. We don’t love his character in Basterds, we love how much he makes us hate him in Basterds.

  • @TrickDacy
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    37 months ago

    What’s the top screen cap from?