NASA remotely reprogramming Voyager 1 also means that aliens can reprogram all of our satellites.

  • Smuuthbrane
    link
    fedilink
    English
    5927 days ago

    By extension that means we can also reprogram alien satellites and probes. So why aren’t we??

    • @radix
      link
      English
      4827 days ago

      Jeff Goldblum can upload a virus to take out an entire alien spacecraft. Probes are a piece of cake.

      • @SzethFriendOfNimi
        link
        327 days ago

        At least in the space odyssey series they had a weird kind of explanation for that approach. Unlike in Independence Day

        • @PoopingCough
          link
          English
          1327 days ago

          Actually in ID4 there was an explanation. Basically all of humanity’s computer tech came from reverse engineering alien tech. So our computers worked with theirs because they were based on theirs. Maybe this isn’t this best logic, but they did at least have an in universe explanation.

    • DarkGamer
      link
      fedilink
      1127 days ago

      We haven’t mastered SSH authentication via psionic tendrils

  • @Boozilla
    link
    English
    3727 days ago

    They should make a Star Trek movie about this!

    Oh, wait…

  • @Kbobabob
    link
    3427 days ago

    This is assuming that they would know and understand the code. Also, that nothing is encrypted but I guess encryption can be broken.

    • @Lightborne
      link
      1827 days ago

      I would doubt they would have encrypted anything on the probe back in 1977 when it launched.

      • @NeptuneOrbit
        link
        2927 days ago

        The ultimate security by obscurity. Do you have a 30m antenna? Can you point it exactly at the space ship with almost no error? Do you know what it’s code and protocols are? OK, please reprogram Voyager

      • @Kbobabob
        link
        1027 days ago

        OP says reprogram all of the satellites. So I would assume that would include the modern ones with encryption as well.

          • andrew
            link
            fedilink
            English
            827 days ago

            Actually it’s Admin47 now because of the yearly password change requirement.

        • @Lightborne
          link
          627 days ago

          I would guess not. Any authentication scheme would just be another risk point to not be able to talk to the thing from earth.

          But I’m just guessing.

            • Possibly linux
              link
              fedilink
              English
              0
              edit-2
              27 days ago

              That’s actually a good point. However, the technology and conceptual understanding of encryption was not really a thing in 1970

              Sure encryption was around but it was mostly people with code books

        • downpunxx
          link
          fedilink
          427 days ago

          when these were launched in the 70’s authentication wasn’t a concern, getting it up, and reporting back was

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    2727 days ago

    I mean, sure, technically. They’d have to know English, know the programming language that was used for the probe, know the transmission frequency that the probe accepts, know the boundaries and limitations of the probe so that they don’t actually force any errors, and presumably would need to crack the encryption preventing anyone else from reprogramming Voyager 1. They’d also either need to be able to generate incredibly strong radio waves through space in order to transmit their code, or they’d need to be close enough to us that we’d be able to detect their presence.

    While that’s all technically possible, the odds of it happening are pretty low.

    • @CarbonatedPastaSauce
      link
      English
      1627 days ago

      Crack encryption from the mid 70’s? If there even is any on the Voyager command signal, I couldn’t find a reference to any. But if there is, I’d think modern computers are up to the task.

      They’d also either need to be able to generate incredibly strong radio waves through space

      My guess is that THIS is the actual security feature.

      Not to mention… who would even want to? There’s nothing to gain except slight infamy, if you could even prove you were behind it.

  • Björn Tantau
    link
    fedilink
    2727 days ago

    Yes, one entity being able to reprogram one piece of tech definitely means another entity is able to reprogram every other piece of tech that is slightly related.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    1926 days ago

    the existence of viruses and zero day exploits probably also means aliens can reprogram your mom’s laptop but why would they want to?

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    1827 days ago

    Any alien species that is aware of our satellites is so technically superior to us they wouldn’t bother. The James Webb Telecope is our best, but we still aren’t certain we’ve named all the planets in our own solar system.

  • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️
    link
    fedilink
    English
    18
    edit-2
    27 days ago

    Aliens would need to understand the systems.

    I mean… Can you reprogram Voyager 1? We have a bunch of random polyhedrons from the ancient world and we don’t even know what the hell they are. Our stuff could be so ancient compared to an alien that they are just as baffled by it as we are of those polyhedrons.

    They might not even be able to understand the simple pictorial instructions for playing the audio on the golden record Voyager carries.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1527 days ago

      There’s a novel titled Glasshouse, by Charles Stross, where members of a far future civilization sign up to live in a simulated mid-20th century town. At one point the protagonist disassembles a flashlight and discovers that it’s just a flashlight-shaped case containing a small wormhole whose other end is in close orbit around a star. No one knew how to make an LED or incandescent bulb, or understood enough about early electronic components to hook one up to a switch and a battery. It was easier to make a wormhole generator and stick it in a metal tube.

  • @LemmyRefugee
    link
    1627 days ago

    I saw a movie with Will Smith where aliens used TCPv4 to communicate their systems. So, why not?

  • Krafty Kactus
    link
    fedilink
    English
    1227 days ago

    Probably not all of them. The Voyager probes were launched in the 70s and they don’t exactly need much encryption because they can only be programmed by someone with a massive transmitter.

  • Echo Dot
    link
    fedilink
    527 days ago

    Can you reprogram the satellites? Because it must only be easier for you to do it than aliens at least you understand human languages.

    • @Feathercrown
      link
      English
      126 days ago

      If he was an aerospace engineer maybe

  • @wildcardology
    link
    526 days ago

    You’ve been watching too much independence day huh.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    527 days ago

    All I can think of is alien adolescents reprogramming them to mess with humans. Fake invasion messages, alien memes. Like cowtipoing, but screwing with humans instead