• @[email protected]
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    wouldn't want you to make me uncomfortable

    How about sign a bill to have proper doors on stalls so no one can see you? Then it doesn’t matter.

    • Anise (they/she)
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      This has nothing to do with bathrooms, privacy, or “protecting women.” The entire intent of laws like these is to attack trans people and make it effectively illegal to be trans in public. Fascists need a minority enemy in order to maintain power and we are their latest favourite punching bag.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      How about sign a bill to have proper doors on stalls so no one can see you?

      Sounds like communism

  • toomanypancakes
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    If I ever go to Mississippi I guess I’m gonna have to piss on the governor’s mansion instead

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      Why would you ever do something so disgusting?

      Go to Mississippi I mean, it’s the literal worst state in the worst country.

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        You don’t know how much that means to me as a Texan. I was thinking we were the worst, but you give me hope.

        • @[email protected]
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          As a former Floridian, I thought Florida was the worst.

          No, wait, I’m pretty sure Florida is still the worst, but Mississippi is going to be joining Florida on Erin’s Do Not Travel list. :(

          • @captainlezbian
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            Florida speed ran to the bottom. Mississippi has been awful from the start. Texas is the disappointment state, it keeps looking like it might turn blue before pulling some bullshit

      • @frostysauce
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        America sucks but have you heard of Haiti?

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        the worst country

        This seems a little dramatic

        Edit: lol downvoted for mildly pushing back against the idea that the US is the worst of the ~200 other countries in the world. Never change, Lemmy.

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          Try being trans, gay, or black here then get back to me.

          Edit: or poor. Or homeless. Or neurodivergent. Or mentally ill.

          Actually you know what, just go fuck yourself, how’s that?

          • @[email protected]
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            I’ve got real bad news about how the rest of the world feels about those things then.

            As sad as it is, America is one of the most progressive and diverse nations in the world.

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            just go fuck yourself, how’s that?

            This also seems incredibly dramatic

            I’m not trying to say that the US is perfect, but do you honestly believe that the US is the “worst” place to be any of the things you listed?

            There are plenty of places in the world you would be put to death for being gay. Try asking an immigrant from literally any of those countries if they prefer the US and get back to me.

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                You’re actually arguing that the difference between being put to death and not is a “millimeter off the floor”? That is some privileged nonsense, frankly.

                I agree that the US has problems, but hyperbolic doomerism is hardly conducive to changing any of that.

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                  I’m saying “Some places are worse” is not an argument that “This is fine”.

                  The point being discussed is that this is a terrible law and an example of Mississippi being a shit hole. You are just side tracking the conversation because you don’t understand the function of hyperbole in speech and think talking about how “The US isn’t literally the worst place to live” is somehow a helpful or useful conversation to have in light of the topic art hand.

                  The US has problems, and insisting that some places are worse is hardly conducive to changing any of that.

      • @Viking_Hippie
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        Too difficult to pronounce. Let’s just call it Pississippi. There’s too many M states and only one P state anyway 🤷

  • @Phegan
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    People are starving and unhoused and this is the shit they choose to focus on. People should be mad

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      People are starving and unhoused and that’s exactly why they’re focusing on this. To distract people from the source of their actual issues. Bread and circuses.

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        As a circus performer, I’d rather not be dragged down to the level of these shit heads.

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          No no, I don’t intend to besmirch circuses. It’s a phrase attributed to a second century AD Roman poet, referring to politicians generating public approval by providing diversion instead of fixing the root causes of issues or even handling those issues at all.

          We could also say “bread and games”.

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          Dang you’re right that is so unfair to circus professionals

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            Ironically, most circus performers tend to be very liberal. The circus sideshow is home to all the outcasts, and a large chunk of us are trans or queer. Many of us are disabled, some of us have deformities or body mods (I have a forked tongue). Republicans would undoubtedly send us to the gallows if they could.

            I’ve literally gone on stage to warn people about the bills that Republicans are trying to pass. At our core, we’re artists, and we’re trying to fight the good fight.

            In fact, the history of the “freak show” is very interesting and worth reading about. It’s a story of how capitalism exploits vulnerable populations for profit (PT Barnum is a piece of shit), though it has evolved a lot over time and is different now.

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              In fact, the history of the “freak show” is very interesting and worth reading about. It’s a story of how capitalism exploits vulnerable populations for profit (PT Barnum is a piece of shit), though it has evolved a lot over time and is different now.

              40 minute video essay on the topic

      • @ameancow
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        The people sliding the checks under the table to the politicians pounding this worthless wardrum day and night are the same people who profit greatly on the idea that there are people who have, and people who have not. As long as this dichotomy is preserved at all costs, the system remains stable and the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor where they belong: supporting the wealthy with their low-wage labor, and the vast, complicated spectrum in between.

        Trans people became the latest convenient target because they’re such small segment of the population. They’re being singled out exactly because they’re easier targets than a racial or ethnic minority. Not that they’ve stopped pointing at ethnic and racial minorities, but they know that more people will push back a lot harder on overtly stated ideas of racial superiority.

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    I was talking to my therapist yesterday about this, before this news dropped. How I couldn’t wait to get my new ID card with an F on it so that I could finally go to the bathroom without too much fear. If someone happened to spot that maybe I was trans, I could just put it out and say “look, I’m a woman” and walk away.

    But she was in disbelief at this. She genuinely couldn’t wrap her head around the idea of someone making a scene because a trans person was in their bathroom. Like, at first, she thought I was blowing up a non existent issue. “Who would do this?!”, she asked, And I told her it was an actual issue that lots of people were doing it and therefore lots of trans people avoided the bathroom like the plague.

    And when I told her about some US states new laws, taking Utah as an example, her jaw dropped. She had this look of utter disappointment, like I had just chipped away a piece of her faith in humanity.

    Not only did the idea never crossed her mind, she couldn’t even conceive why it would be a problem. I laughed at this and told her: “That’s because you’re a normal person.”

    Just wanted to share this with all of you, especially fellow trans people. It’s good to know that while some people are mentally deranged at the idea of my existence, It not only seems to be a very loud minority, but it also seems to be a repellent for a lot of people who cannot grasp their obsessions.

    Seeing someone who isn’t really aware of our issues in the first place being shocked at these things was relieving. It felt good and gave me hope.

    • Flying Squid
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      Even though I rationally understand it, I still have a hard time wrapping my head around it. Let someone shit in peace. If I’m in the men’s room and someone comes in there that looks like a woman dressed as a man, I couldn’t care less.

      In fact, if someone came into the men’s room and looked like Marylin Monroe in the famous white dress, I couldn’t care less.

      Piss, shit, whatever.

      Just don’t talk to me. I’m not in there to make friends.

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        Imagine going to the bathroom, just to take a shit! How fucking weird, right? (/s)

        …seriously, I wonder what these people imagine we’re doing in the bathroom. Or hell, what are they doing in the bathroom that warrant such worries?

        • Flying Squid
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          They like to bring up the “a man could wear a dress and go into the women’s room and rape a little girl” canard. To which I reply, “they’d probably get away with that more easily if they wore a janitor’s uniform. We really should ban janitors from bathrooms.”

          They don’t care for that suggestion.

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            I may be pulling something out of my ass but I honestly can’t be bothered to check. But, wasn’t this something that was said about lesbian women too? That they shouldn’t be allowed in women’s bathroom because they would pry on other women and so on?

            • Flying Squid
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              At this point, maybe people should just start shitting on the floor if someone tries to challenge them.

                • Flying Squid
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                  Of course not, but just try doing it in an Aeropostale.

                  …not that I’d know anything about that.

            • @captainlezbian
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              Not only was that a thing, a lot of the transphobic violence in bathrooms winds up hitting cis lesbians

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            So the only thing stopping them from doing that now is the dress detecting force field around the bathroom?

        • @unreasonabro
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          Taking your penis off and rubbing it on the toilet paper, obviously

      • @captainlezbian
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        There’s three acceptable forms of communication in the restroom: functional (eg after you), quick compliments on outfit/makeup (some dislike it but it grew on me), and the far too drunk lady who speaks the wisdom she cannot possess

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      Whenever I walk into a public restroom, I whip out my portable lab equipment and forcibly karyotype everyone there. How else am I supposed to piss for 20 seconds in peace?

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    The thing that gets me with this is, how is anyone to know?

    If you present as the gender on the door, what are they going to do? Rip your pants down and check? Cop a feel? That’s assault. Peep through the stall? Pretty sure that’s a misdemeanor, most places.

    I get the idea behind this is terror, but “Fuck off! I’m shitting here!” should be the only response anyone should get to a nosy question in the bathroom.

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    Can’t wait for all the dudes walking into the ladies room simply because of chromosomes. They never consider the reverse when dog whistling…

    • @GoddessOfGouda
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      Pretty sure this already happened to a trans guy once and you wouldn’t guess what they did…. They were mad about a man in the women’s room 🤦‍♀️

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        I’d love a source on that.

        I mean, actually, is love for it not to have happened and for people to just stop being assholes, but barring that, I would be interested to see this corroborated

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      They don’t care. Their goal is for trans people to be too afraid to go to any restroom, or for them to face consequences if they dare go to any restroom.

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    Can trans people sue cis people for harassment then?

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      No. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Trans people are one of their main out-groups.

  • @BonesOfTheMoon
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    I would always always always rather go to the bathroom with a trans person rather than a conservative. Those people are truly dangerous, and trans people are awesome. They also are not the ones who randomly decide to shoot someone for existing.

    All conservatives are trash.

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    Ok, so what if dad brings his 3-year-old daughter into the men’s room, or mom brings her infant son into the ladies room? Can I sue over the emotional trauma that caused me?

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      Or more importantly what if I use the bathroom in my home and then my wife or daughter use it later? Can I sue them both?

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      Let the rest of NA band together and start calling them pississippi and let their residents scratch their heads

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        And if they get uppity about it, they get labelled MissusPissy

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    I assume that integrated into this bill are guaranteed rights that trans people can countersue for harassment and defamation if they are misgendered while using the legally mandated bathroom.

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    Typical fascist America.

    In fascist capitalist America, they check your genitalia before you use the bathroom.

    Every American criticizes North Korea and China for much less.

  • Flying Squid
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    You don’t have to live next to me

    Just give me my equality

    Everybody knows about Mississippi

    Everybody knows about Alabama

    Everybody knows about Mississippi, goddamn

    Nina Simone sang it about the black experience in Mississippi in the 1960s. With a couple of minor lyrics changes, it could be about the queer experience today.

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    Oh, awesome! Cause that’s what I need when I’m struggling. I don’t need health care. I don’t need a livable wage. I don’t need equal rights. I need to sue trans people.

    See? Repubs are giving us a path to success. Just sue a trans person who maybe has no money to pay out and everything is fine!

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      Peter Griffins special needs brother