When it comes to English the problem can be split into two: the origin of the word, and its usage to refer to the planet.
The origin of the word is actually well known - English “earth” comes from Proto-Germanic *erþō “ground, soil”, that in turn comes from Proto-Indo-European *h₁ér-teh₂. That *h₁ér- root pops up in plenty words referring to soil and land in IE languages; while that *-teh₂ nouns for states of being, so odds are that the word ultimately meant “the bare soil” or similar.
Now, the usage of the word for the planet gets trickier, since this metaphor - the whole/planet by the part/soil - pops up all the time. Even for non-Indo-European languages like:
- Basque - “Lurra” Earth is simply “lur” soil with a determiner
- Tatar - “Zemin” Earth, planet vs. “zemin” earth, soil
- Greenlandic - “nuna” for both
The furthest from that that I’ve seen was Nahuatl calling the planet “tlalticpactl” over the land - but even then that “tlal[li]” at the start is land, soil.
The metaphor is so popular, but so popular, that it becomes hard to track where it originated - because it likely originated multiple times. I wouldn’t be surprised for example if English simply inherited it “as is”, as German “Erde” behaves the same. The same applies to the Romance languages with Latin “Terra”, they simply inherited the word with the double meaning and called it a day.
And as to why Earth has become the accepted term rather than ‘terra’, ‘orbis’ or some variant on ‘mundus’, well, that’s a tougher question to answer.
In English it’s simply because “Earth” is its native word. Other languages typically don’t use this word.
Casually dropping Basque into your comment: +1
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In Chinese it’s 地球 which is basically “earth (as in dirt) ball”
That ⟨地球⟩ is perhaps the only exception that we’re damn sure on how Earth got its name. The guy who coined the expression was a priest of the Papal States called Matteo Ricci, living in Ming around 1600. He did a living translating works back and forth between Chinese and Latin, and calqued that expression from Latin orbis terrarum - roughly “the globe of soils”, or “the ball of earths”.
Ancient Chinese mysticism (yijing, wuxing, daoism) have the concept of earth as either kūn (field, like of grass) or di (earth, like soil). I believe both are 地. This is in contrast to Heaven (tian) which is above. I believe both were conceived of as infinite parallel planes.
天地人 (tiān-dì-rén) are Heaven, Earth, and Human; and were sometimes seen as the 3 primal forces of reality.
Thanks for the further info! That 地 alone does follow the pattern of the other languages.
Your explanation gives Ricci’s odd calque a lot more sense - he’s using the old term, but highlighting that it’s a ball, not an infinite plane. As in, he was trying to be accurate to the sources, and he could only do it through that calque.
Woah, that’s awesome! I had no idea about the etymology. Thanks for sharing!
Nahuatl calling the planet
Even the term “planet” here is noisy, as it implies knowledge of an orb floating and/or spinning in space.
Maybe a better (less modern scientific) term in this case would be “world”, which could have been “what I have seen and have heard about, plus the regions beyond where dragons lie”, as an equivalent to “one, two, three, many”.
Fair point - notlahtlacōl. “World” does seem more accurate.
I wouldn’t be surprised if modern Nahuatl varieties used tlālticpactli to refer to the planet itself. (Still, my example is from Classical Nahuatl, so your correction is spot on.)
TLDR: article is clickbait title, which goes on to explain the etymological origin of the name “Earth” coming from Old English, and other dead languages have other names for Earth such as “Terra”.
The oldest possible record for the term “Earth” comes from Proto-Indo-European “Er-”, which means ground or soil.
Thanks for correcting.
I was thinking about changing the link and title with this one, is it better? https://sciencenotes.org/how-did-earth-get-its-name/
I like how this article ends up describing the difference between naming Earth as opposed to other planets and the more in-depth etymological explenations of all the names.
Sorry, I find etymology interesting, and the original post caught my attention, so I felt compelled to point a few things out.
But that doesn’t explain how we treated to call this planet by the name we give to dirt. We could have called the earth “rocks” or “sand” instead, but no. When did we realise we are sitting on a floating ball of dirt?
The dirt is what makes plants grow, which is kinda important to people of all cultures.
OK, but that doesn’t answer my question of how it became the name of the planet.
Rough approximation: Earth as opposed to sky, becomes earth as opposed to sea, becomes earth as in the known world as opposed to the places we don’t settle (sea, sky, hell, etc.), becomes the place we live as opposed to Mars or Betelgeuse.
We walk on dirt, we live on dirt, we live on Dirt.
That’s a pretty good and likely summary, thanks!
I don’t know why in sci-fi or other fiction, I love it when they use Terra. Not sure why I find that more believable.
I believe that it was a whale at free fall, falling along side a bowl of petunias
One of my favorite lines comes from those books.
“The ships hung in the sky much in the way that bricks don’t.”
Yeah! Its right in the start! After that you get kind of used to them but they are still there! brilliant wordplay!
Oh no, not again.
Yes we do know, It comes from the Latin language during the roman empire. Terra which means soil/ground in Latin. it deviated to Terra in italian and portuguese, tierra in spanish and terre in french.
English was influenced by french so they took the meaning of earth from there. The word earth in english comes from old english or irish I dont remember correctly.
Earth comes from OE, which comes from Proto-Germanic, which comes from Proto-Indo-European. Seperate from the Latin “Terra”.
Yeah, earth in Dutch is “aarde” and in German it’s “erde”, which both sound related to “earth”.
However, it originally must have meant soil/dirt/land, long before those humans were even aware of the concept of planets. So who was the first to call Earth after earth or Terre after terre? Probably the first persons to figure out that they were living on a planet is my guess, it makes sense to name something after the part that you can see imo.
You’re aware the word we’re discussing is “Earth” right?
But was Latin the origin or just another step in the process?
We don’t know who named most things, so that is hardly surprising. We typically only know who named recent phenomena.
Its named after dirt.
As a soil scientist, I politely request you stop using that word.
Or else.
What’s wrong with dirt?
On a planetary scale, all soil is dirt, because it’s all been displaced so many times from glaciers and mountains and oceans and taking part in the biosphere, you can’t tell where each particle was originally weathered from or which plant first captured it from the air. No one can trace sod to a fault line.
It’s hard to have a rich history when evwn sharks are older. I bet you can’t even tell if a soil is from regolith younger or older than Pangaea!
Dirt? Do you mean the mythical home planet of humanity in Harry Harrison’s Stainless Steel Rat series?
Man that brings back memories. Mono-molecule wire and shenanigans :-D
Dirt will be a term for the remains of mankind in future civilizations. So much dirt left from those f**kheads. /s
Wait what? It dates back a thousand years? So what did people call the planet they lived on in 200 AD? Or 500 BC? Surely they had a word for it before then. Or did they feel they lived ON the universe?
They lived on dirt. Thats it.
Motherfucker… Stop
First dude I’ve blocked on lemmy
I’m honoured
Once this planet was called round.
Thag. Lucky bastard. Got to name two things.
I wish he’d also called it planet Thagomizer, instead.
Super Earth, our home…
Thaghome!
Better than Thagburgh.
Probably the same guy who named the River Avon.
English: *points at river* “What is this?”
Celtic native: “it’s a river, bro”
English: “Then we shall call it the River River.” *points at ground* “What is this?”
Native: “it’s the ground, dirt, EARTH.”
English: “Well golly fucking gosh, I have the perfect name”I’ve seen worse.
Like. There’s a Spanish city called Cartagena. And a neighbourhood in that city called Nueva Cartagena.
What’s Spanish “Nueva”? New.
What’s “Cartagena”? It was inherited from Latin “Carthago Nova”, then univerbated. That Latin “nova” is the same as Spanish “nueva”, new.
Where did “Carthago” come from? Ultimately from Phoenician, 𐤒𐤓𐤕-𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕/qrt-ḥdšt. That 𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕/ḥdšt means city, and the 𐤒𐤓𐤕/qrt means new.
The neighbourhood name is literally “new new new city”.
Amazing
Tautological place names.
The article missed the ancient Greek “Gaia” which is older than the mentioned examples.
Gaia also has the same meaning, ground or earth
I’m pretty sure it was just the name of the primal goddess.
It’s the opposite - the name of the primal goddess is just the word for ground. The same things happens with other gods like Hestia (hearth), they were named after the things that they personified.
The naming of those particular gods goes so far back it’s impossible to know with any certainty
We can’t be completely sure of that, as it’s based on inductive reasoning, and indirect evidence. …but nor I can be completely sure either if my lunch will be actual chicken or if the butcher sold me Cthulhu’s flesh shaped like chicken tights. So eventually we need to draw the line and say “nah, we know this well enough”.
And in the case of Γαῖα / Gaîa, the presence of a coordinated term γῆ / gê “land, earth, soil” (NOM.PL γ(έ)αι /g(é)ai ) is strong indicative that the god was named after the concept, not the opposite. That word pops up all the time in compounds, even for mundane things like γεωργός / geōrgos “farmer” or γεωμετρία / geōmetríā “land measuring → geometry”.
It also fits rather well how epithets are assigned to gods, and often evolve into names themselves.
Now, if the word is from PIE *dʰéǵʰōm “earth” or some Pre-Greek substrate is another can of worms, that is far more dubious. The presence of forms like Δᾶ / Dâ hint me the later; possibly the original language used something like *ɟea, and different Greek dialects adapted that */ɟ/ into /d/ or /g/. Curiously the forms that pop up in compounds for other nouns use /d/, like Demeter (“mother De”).
The most fascinating part about all this is that the Greek culture goes as far back as the last ice age where the Greek genesis myth references things that could potentially refer to those geographic circumstances. There were also a lot of invasions and colonization of that area and the new people tended go absorb some of the culture from the defeated ones which is where some of those names come from. Like it’s fascinating that Gaia is a pretty important goddess, but wasn’t really honored and mentioned as much as the dodecatheon and neither was Uranus. Almost like deist entities.
I’ve read people suggest that some of these almost prehistoric names come out of onomatopoeia. What do you think?
It’s beautiful, isn’t it? We look at the past, and it opens a small window to an even earlier past.
It’s a bit off-topic but here’s another example that I find also fascinating - horses in the Greek myths. What’s up with the divine twins Castor and Pollux being always pictured with horses? Or Poseidon, a sea god, creating land animals? Or the association between horses and glory in battle?
Sure, horses are useful, but less so in a rough terrain; and the Greeks weren’t exactly mass breeding horses, they were mostly a resource for rich people. Almost like they inherited some myths that only made sense in another environment full of open fields, where horses were a way of life.
And just like the genesis myths talk about what happened from the PoV of the natives, those horse myths talk about the origin of the invaders, as steppe nomads near the Pontic Sea. And then suddenly you find a lot other similar myths, in other Indo-European cultures; such as the Rigveda with the अश्विनः / Aśvinaḥ (“horse possessors”, divine twins, who save people from the sea), or Germanic tales about the sea invasion of Britannia being led by Hengist (stallion) and Horsa (horse).
It makes me feel like everything is connected, and perhaps we shouldn’t be even talking about “Greek culture”, but just that Greek portrait of human culture.
But I digress. (Sorry, I tend to talk a lot about Indo-European culture, it’s one of my passions.)
I’ve read people suggest that some of these almost prehistoric names come out of onomatopoeia. What do you think?
Personally I find it possible but unlikely. I think that they get those short, almost “bah!”-like forms due to erosion, caused by sound changes and the borrowing process.
It’s simply that we don’t know enough about its etymology further back to “see” a well-structured word. All that we see is that “gê”, sometimes “da”.
Like it’s fascinating that Gaia is a pretty important goddess, but wasn’t really honored and mentioned as much as the dodecatheon and neither was Uranus. Almost like deist entities.
Yup! She’s a goddess, but she lacks all the whistles and bells that you’d associate with the Olympians, because she’s more like a divine aspect of nature. By worshipping her you aren’t just worshipping some abstract entity in the middle of nowhere, you’re worshipping the very soil that gives you sustenance.
It’s interesting that you mentioned Ouranos, as it’s another god with a rather transparent name: οὐρανός/ouranós is the sky vault, where the stars are attached to. Your association is spot on - he’s also a divine aspect of nature, a step further from humankind than the Olympians.
The Cylons named it.
