The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

  • MentalEdge
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    1836 months ago

    Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.

    Making sure your kids don’t go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.

    Not the fucking state.

    And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I’ve ever seen.

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      Exactly! Government granted ‘porn credits’ sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea…

      Porn “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits” is one wild sentence.

      A porn “enthusiast”, requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?

    • @Souyo
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      In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.

      • ddh
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        576 months ago

        Folks, this is not about the porn.

      • MentalEdge
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        So what? I’ve had the exact same experience.

        It’s not a reason for the state to overstep into ALL our lives. In fact, the state stepping in is giving such parents yet more excuses to put even less effort into shaping the adults that their children will become.

      • youmaynotknow
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        That’s their problem. I’ll handle my kids, fuck the government and fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.

        • @grue
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          …fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.

          But that’s how the problem started in the first place!

  • @[email protected]
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    Wow good job Spain.

    I guess this works because email doesn’t exist.

    I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don’t exist.

    I guess this works because VPN’s free and paid don’t exist.

    I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don’t exist.

    I guess this works because torrenting doesn’t exist.

    I guess this works because black markets don’t exist.

    I guess this works because chat applications don’t exist.

    To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.

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      I want to be at the meeting a year from now where they realize only two people have ever signed up ‘Yay we fixed porn!’

      Buy who am I kidding they brought VPN shares before this was introduced

      • @[email protected]
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        Bought VPN shares and water shipping company shares because they know wasting money on this shit instead of on public infrastructure to provide more reliable clean water is only good for commercial interests.

    • @[email protected]
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      You are right, it’s really stupid.

      But it’s also stupid not to consider, that it’s not the real reason they made this in the first place.

      They want to track you, and porn is the first excuse. If this is a success you might need this passport for alot of other things.

      • @pdxfed
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        Thank you for contributing!

        You’ve used the last of your political observation credits for the month. If you’d like to request more, please visit yourcountry.gov citizen portal and fill out the application. Your wait time will be 3-5 business days. We apologize for the wait but we are currently receiving a high volume of applications.

        -govbot

  • @[email protected]
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    706 months ago

    So teens learn about Tor & VPNs. This stuff doesn’t work. The higher you put the skills to get access, the more they will learn. Nothing motivates teens more than access to adult stuff. Maybe this is really a tech literacy policy.

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    They made this to send people from legal sites to illegal sites.

  • @[email protected]
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    “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.”

    Well that’s a relief. For a minute there, I was worried.

  • kbal
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    This ensures traceability through the public key as content providers will consistently receive the same public key when the credential is presented

    What a ridiculous system. For some reason I expected that their efforts to offer an illusion of privacy would be better than the obfuscatory bullshit they’ve leaned on here in order to enable “traceability.”

    I hope it goes down so badly in Spain that the rest of Europe is once and for all convinced that such schemes to restrict and monitor the web browsing habits of every citizen are ineffective for their stated purpose, needlessly invasive of privacy and freedom, destructive of democracy, and can serve only as a prelude to totalitarianism.

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      06 months ago

      Having read the actual description of the protocol, such as it is, I should add in the interest of fairness that those "30 generated porn credits” do get you 30 new key pairs each month. They are issued directly by the central authority which knows exactly who they’re issuing them to, and the public key is presented directly to web sites you visit. But they promise not to track how you use them.

      That it’s so absurd and poorly designed is reassuring in a way. It’s difficult to imagine anyone using this.

  • The Bard in Green
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    Hmm. Driving porn viewers who value their privacy underground couldn’t possibly have any negative consequences I can think of.

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    Instead of educating kids, it’s much easier to… not, and invade their privacy instead.

    • @[email protected]
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      Keep people safe … by encasing them in packing foam and feeding them through IV tubes!

      Everyone knows freedom is anti safety. And safety’s number 1!

  • @brap
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    Porn passport = Wanking license

  • @[email protected]
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    Kids can torrent my dude. Been doing it since I was like 13, and that’s only because before that I was using limewire, then frostwire, then bearshare, then I found torrents because TPB took over. I’ve been pirating since I was like 9.

    That is to say: This dumb ass bullshit isn’t even going to work.

    • @[email protected]
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      I come from a state that has officially mandated that porn websites must verify your age to use them for years. There were many websites that just didn’t give a fuck. X videos in particular. They do now require you to hit a button saying “I’m 18” to process, but I think my point stands.

      These laws do nothing, really.

      • @[email protected]
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        The “I’m 18/21” button on websites has been around since I was a kid in the 90s, used to have to input the “actual” date too so I was born 01/01/1970 according to a lot of now defunct porn sites lol. Also still in use on tobacco, vape, alcohol, and gun websites as well.

        But yeah as I am am example of, lying is always possible lol. I guess this passport or the ID thing in some states is supposed to hinder that, but torrent sites throw a wrench into any censorship efforts and they’re already illegal, they won’t play ball with the ID bullshit, ever.

    • don
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      46 months ago

      former average dc++ enjoyer here, there’s like 6 of us