Several countries have recently blocked Signal, leaving their residents without a trusted and safe place to communicate. To help in this situation, Signal provides a built-in censorship circumvention feature and also includes support for a simple TLS proxy that can bypass these blocks in many cir...
  • kindenough
    18•3 months ago

    My few friends and fam that are important to me are now on Signal, the rest of the family is on Whatsapp which I deleted years ago. Nice and quiet.

  • @[email protected]English
    7•3 months ago

    Personally since I read this, I stopped recommending Signal. In this article among other things they say:

    To keep Signal a free global communication service without spam, we must depart from our totally-open posture and develop one piece of the server in private: a system for detecting and disrupting spam campaigns.

    I also saw a video where Moxie was a speaker defending centralization not only for Signal, in general, and I don’t agree with this approach. (I think it was this one 36c3 Moxie Marlinspike: The ecosystem is moving)

    • @[email protected]
      2•3 months ago

      I see where this is coming from and I personally prefer Matrix because of that but I must recognize that while I disagree with Moxie on some things he has a more pragmatic approach that has merits and probably has this position for good reasons that do not come from an evil/corporate plan. He wants people to use secure communication and he proposes compromises between security and ease of use (without which no one will switch, making general communication worse).

      I still recommend Signal. To my geekier friends I recommend Matrix. But all in all, I consider Signal is still fighting the good fight.

      • JackbyDevEnglish
        4•3 months ago

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Signal is in the perfect niche of privacy and usability and, sadly, suffers for it. Privacy enthusiasts don’t think it is private enough and “normies” (for lack of a better term off the top of my head) don’t use it because there aren’t enough people using it or it just isn’t fun enough. Meanwhile, it’s insanely trivially easy to install and register and it works like a normal message app.

        Edit: ironic that I accidentally triple post a comment that starts with “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again”

    • @[email protected]
      1•3 months ago

      I agree with you but I think that signal was built as to not trust the server either way.

      • poVoqM
        3•3 months ago

        That’s what they like you to think yes. But it is only the message content and not the various forms of metadata that is protected by their encryption scheme.

        • @doodledup
          1•3 months ago

          It’s also the metadata. Profile and contact discovery is also private. I don’t think they have anything except your IP.

          • poVoqM
            1•3 months ago

            Seal sender is a nice idea, but since you can easily run timing attacks on centralised infrastructure it is pointless for Signal, or rather you have to trust them that their infrastructure is not compromised.

            They also store device ids for push notifications via Google/Apple.

  • Syl ⏚
    6•3 months ago

    I run a signal proxy since the Iran revolution, but I had to tweak their project to make it run on rpi. Then I installed Molly and it doesn’t support HTTPS porxy, only socks. So I rewrote it with caddy (which is a lot nicer) but now HTTPS doesn’t work anymore. Not sure if I did something wrong.

    In the end, I kept the nginx proxy for rhé others.

    • @[email protected]OP
      11•3 months ago

      better

      Let’s not compare oranges to apples :P

      Signal has a different threat model

      xmpp is in another kind of “trust”

  • BlackLaZoR
    1•3 months ago

    I cut down on signal usage since they removed SMS support. Everyone uses RCS chat by default now

      • BlackLaZoR
        2•3 months ago

        It’s deployed in all modern phones - 90% time I send SMS to literally anyone, it gets through RCS

        • @[email protected]OP
          5•3 months ago

          Are you from the Us? It’s usually us people that speak about worldwide while talking about their country lol

          Here in Italy WhatsApp reigns; also in most of Europe

          Then there are WeChat, kakaotalk, telegram… Every of them has some country in which they rule

          The blue bubble iPhone thing fixed by RCS is basically only us America from what I know

          • BlackLaZoR
            3•3 months ago

            Are you from the Us?

            No.

            while talking about their country

            I can only vouch for my own experience. Everyone I know, with one exception is using the default messaging service - which is SMS or RCS.