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Migrants who arrived since 2015 say they feel unwelcome in Germany, where the far-right Alternative for Germany is gaining support.
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short anecdote:
I met a girl from afghanistan recently and it kinda made me understand why it’s so important to accept these people. they’ve really been through a lot and not accepting them would be a bad mistake.
It’s how people say: you’re against migration until you’ve actually met some migrants.
Still, it sours me that we talk so much about migration and migrants and so little about the reasons for migration, which are the horrible wars that the US and allies have fought in afghanistan and nearby countries for long time for practically little to no reason. honestly, it’s the US’s fault, and they should take some responsibility and actually care for these people, even if only financially.
Well we have failed to stop climate change, which means we can expect something like a billion climate refugees over the next century. Manufactured conflicts like Syria and Ukraine don’t help either. Which means we’ll need to change laws to allow for refugees and eventually build automated AI programmed machine gun towers to mow down people who want to enter Europe. Cheaper than walls or mine fields.
This is the horrifying and inevitable future because of neoliberalism. We simply don’t have the mental or social tools to do anything about it. Fascism all over Europe will continue to rise.
Manufactured conflicts like Syria and Ukraine
Who manufactured these conflicts?
Yeah, tell us who started the war in Ukraine in 2014 with little green men without badges and shooting down a civilian plane. Go on!
You’re not trying to tell me it’s not a war of russian aggression, are you?
the state complies with asylum laws at expense of domestic population then everybody does pika face
Germany is actually one of the few countries doing right tho… these migrants should try their luck within the US system… from the border to the slaughter house in under a month with a free one way bus ticket.
bonus is that your kid can also work!!!
slaver mentality is strong among american ruling class.
at [the] expense of domestic population
Gee. That’s just wrong. The benefit of even just the refugees is far greater than the cost. E.g. the German hospital system pretty much wouldn’t work anymore without thousands of migrant doctors, many of which Syrians.
Ahh yes mythic refugee doctors saving stupid westoids with their labour.
the German hospital system pretty much wouldn’t work anymore without thousands of migrant doctors, many of which Syrians.
This is not a flex you think it is, just an indication of poor leadership and planning on the regime’s part.
While sure immigration is over all good for GDP, it supresses wages of the indigenous slave labour. So for a wage slave thus is inherently a hit to their wallets.
Why should wage slave care about imaginary number used by ruling class dick measuring tape instead of the number that pays the bills?
regime […] slave labour
I know you’re edgelording but would you mind reverting back to appropriate terms here? You’re speaking about Germany, not about Uyghur labor in China.
This is not a flex you think it is, just an indication of poor leadership
Not meant as a flex at all: Just a part of reality where migrants contribute a lot to German society, while a lot of Germans are put off by people simply speaking a different language or having the wrong skin color, and/or being riled up by racism in media and politics.
While sure immigration is over all good for GDP, it supresses wages of the indigenous slave labour. So for a wage slave thus is inherently a hit to their wallets.
For funsies, consider that Germany didn’t even have a federal minimum wage until 2009 and how that impacted wages, like in real terms. Also consider, that migration does come with an overall expanding economy (i.e. you need more goods, you need new services, etc.) which can easily mean better (economic/social) outcomes for all.
[Addendum:] The quality of leadership is an entirely different topic. But fwiw, the only way to keep capitalism going is an expanding society but women don’t seem to want to have more kids lately. Of course, it would behoove us to question capitalism and the expensive, often societally detrimental systems built since WWII. We won’t get to working on those questions though, if our attentions continue to be focused on racist bullshit.
Right-wing parties not only don’t question capitalism, they also do have own improbable “solutions” to the question of growing the population: Essentially outlawing abortions, forcing LGBTQ people into cishet conformity, and weakening women’s rights (which likely encompasses gradually making rape less illegal).
Right wing parties are useful idiots for the regime.
That’s how you end up with American conservative thinking maternity leave is bad lol
I guess I should have clarified that I was asking you to tone down the language as a mod, too. Further questions in private.
Because trade is a thing and protecting the weakest also protects the slightly better of. That is to say, if migrant workers can not be exploited neither can German workers.
And yes that includes helping workers in other countries.
Germany just tries closing its borders with “smart controls” (which basicalle means racial profiling). Every political party except the Left wants to deport “criminal migrants” (“criminal” being a fig leaf here) (and even in the Left there are some who want to deport). German lawmakers are pushing for more and more restrictions, cutting financial support for refugees, leaning on populistic measures, abusing statistics left and right and so on and so forth
This article isn’t about that though. It’s about rising xenophobia, a climate of fear and racism constructed and driven forward by the AfD (the party that’s too far right even for Italy’s post fascists) and how migrants and citizens with migration backgrounds don’t feel safe and welcome anymore.
If you manage to get out of the brainbin, have a look around and tell me that it‘s the poor ripping everyone off.
I am not following what you are saying here
I am saying it‘s obviously not the asylum seekers living at the expense of the populace.
shit is bad for the domestic population because of capitalism not because of complying with asylum laws
It isn’t even bad for the domestic population. The domestic population actually needs immigration, because the domestic population is aging and we’re running out of young people (in relation to the older population).
