Is Lemmy full of sovereign citizens now days? In all countries including China when you drive dangerously you get a ticket.
That was my exact first impression of this post.
Basically Sovcit nonsense
I’m not driving, I’m traveling!!!
https://priceonomics.com/how-police-officers-seize-cash-from-innocent/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/08/18/civil-asset-forfeiture-explained/74802279007/
Those are just the top 3 search results for “cops steal money”.
And yet this meme is clearly about traffic enforcement.
First you have to stops the cars to gets the money.
I’m sure the Ferengi could have said it better.
People should still be punished for driving dangerously. Civil forfeiture is another issue.
Feel free to point out in the meme where the driver was driving dangerously.
The same place it says it’s for civil forfeiture. This being said the police officer does have a ticket in hand which implies some sort of safety violation.
This comic could be taking place in China. The same scene could play out. Nothing specific to injustice in the USA here.
expired registration is not a safety issue
If your state doesn’t do safety inspections that’s something you should talk with a state legislator about.
Nope. Regulatory.
You’d lick the boot in China too, but nice try.
If I was driving dangerously it would only be just that I be punished proportionately. Same goes for everyone in every country.
If you call that boot licking so be it.
Who
Is
Driving
Dangerously?
Assumptions in your head don’t count anymore than anything else in there.
I heavily suggest you Google “monopoly on violence”
We don’t need to start from Hobbes to understand that, as a society, punishing dangerous drivers is a good thing.
There is a lot of good reading out there. I recommend this as a starting point when coming to an understanding of violence and society.
We don’t need to start from Hobbes
Recommends Hobbes as a starting point
I agree 100% but just had a bit of a giggle
lol. I realized that as I was writing that. But I went with it. Hobbes is a great starting point for people new to political philosophy.
We just don’t need to start with him.
I think John Rawls is a better starting place if we were to start a society from scratch. Just a bit harder for people less used to reading philosophical works.
Sure, but if simply keeping the roads safe was their only objective, they wouldn’t have things like quotas where they have to shake down a certain number of people for the sake of their budget.
Getting a ticket for driving unsafely around others, while on a public road provided by the government for the people to use to get where they want to go… yes, surely this is authoritarianism /s
In most states nothing happens. If they have you on body camera then they can match it to the driver’s license database. You’re going to get your ticket and another for driving off, in the mail.
In what universe is this paradise?
The universe in which we still need cars and cars kill 42,000 people a year. If you don’t want this problem then make cars unnecessary.
Doubt. The amount of cops who are either going to A give chase or B open fire regardless of the local laws is going to be far beyond statistically relevant. Maybe even a large plurality.
Never, never assume that a cop knows the law. Their job is to enforce, not to know. That’s the DA’s job.
On stuff like whether they’re supposed to be chasing people over traffic infractions it’s very much their job and expected knowledge. If you want to have a talk about state sanctioned violence you don’t get to detour to rogue officers.
Well we can’t have the doubt without its two precursors. Thanks for being so complete.
I wonder how many times throughout history someone was caught doing something that the “authorities” didn’t like, but then some lawmaker was like “damn that’s clever” and then they legalize that action for themselves, their friends, or the police
NYPD officer cites ‘courtesy cards,’ used by friends and family of cops, as source of corruption
Though not officially recognized by the NYPD, the laminated cards have long been treated as a perk of the job. The city’s police unions issue them to members, who circulate them among those who want to signal their NYPD connections — often to get out of minor infraction like speeding or failing to wear a seat belt.
In a federal lawsuit filed in Manhattan this week, Officer Mathew Bianchi described a practice of selective enforcement with consequences for officers who don’t follow the unwritten policy. Current and retired officers now have access to hundreds of cards, giving them away in exchange for a discount on a meal or a home improvement job, he said.
In the Staten Island precinct where he works, a predominantly white area with a high percentage of cops and other city workers, Bianchi said multitudes of people he pulled over for traffic infractions flashed him one of the cards.
I wonder whether you’re wondering something or actually just making shit up to then rely on as fact later.
I don’t give a fuck what you wonder ☺️
Monopoly on violence is literally something good. The biggest problem in the US is that this just doesn’t exist (see gun legislation), which leads to all the school shootings and a more militarized police.
Violence doesn’t just become good because you legitimize it through the state.
This doesn’t look like a post promoting concealed carry for those with a batman complex, but I could be convinced.
LMAOOO im fuckin dead
But there can be less of it, if it is exercised by a monopoly.
Nah, it just institutionalizes it and perpetuates it in a different form – namely structural violence. It’s oppressive and coercive in nature, ultimately used to protect the interests of those with property and further instantiate inequality.
You can’t eliminate violence through violence. You have to meet people’s basic needs. A society that coerces people to act a particular way – especially in regards to meeting their basic needs – through the threat of force could not have been built on freedom, or compassion, or mutual solidarity. It’s unjust, imo
