How is that science?
You might have heard of a branch of science called geography
Is geography science? I thought it, especially the country side of it was politics
Geography is definitely science.
From Wikipedia:
Geography is the study of the lands, features, inhabitants, and phenomena of Earth. Geography is an all-encompassing discipline that seeks an understanding of Earth and its human and natural complexities—not merely where objects are, but also how they have changed and come to be.
Yeah but this seems more like geopolitics, it’s about country borders not natural geography
What I think you mean by “natural geography” is just one part of the field. Urban / economic geography (regional dynamics, housing policy, tourism geography, population analysis) and Historical / Social geography (historical urban geography, homelessness, migration, etc) Are big parts of the field of geography. Most of modern geography is interested in both the physical (more geology, climate, biomes, etc) and human aspects, and how they interact.
it’s* about
sad Bolivia noises
That part of Chile is almost 100 miles of desert. Croatia is only like 10-20 miles wide in that area!
I once stayed in an AirBnB north of Dubrovnik. Driving through Bosnia for 20 minutes and doing 4 passport controls at a time was a real pain. Also had to be careful to switch off data roaming as the towers weren’t in the EU so the data charges went through the roof.
They now built a bridge that allows drivers to avoid the border checks by staying in Croatia
Bosnia does have a 12 mile coastline
The reason it exists is so bizarre too. It stems from the rivalry between the republics of Venice and Ragusea (modern day Dubrovnik). Venice was gradually asserting control over more and more of the Adriatic coastline and Ragusea didn’t much fancy sharing a land border with its rival, so it just gave up one tiny stretch of land each to its north and south to the Ottoman Empire. Venice would therefore have to come by sea or risk angering the Ottomans. Eventually Austria manages to annex the Dalmatian territory of both Venice and Ragusea, but the Ottomans still held those two tiny strips of land. The Ottomans were not typically on the best of terms with Austria, and they held on to the two tiny bits of Adriatic coast up until the treaty of Berlin in 1879. By this point, Neum (the Bosnian one) had been part of Ottoman Bosnia for 179 years, so the borders were pretty damn entrenched, and they survived through the shifts to Austrian, Yugoslav, and eventually independent Bosnian-Herzegovinan political structures. So a petty but clever move of hiding behind a bigger empire in the 1600s created the tiny bit of Bosnian coastline today.
This is the Lemmy we all fighting for!
Mah boi! Peace is what all true warriors strive for.
But it has to share it with Herzegovina, so more like 6 miles for Bosnia and 6 miles for Herzegovina
That’s in Newtonian cartography. In quantum cartography, all 12 miles are in superposition.
In Gaussian Cartography nobody knows which coastline is which.
Neum is actually in Herzegovina but whatever. It’s inside a bay that Croatia controls from both sides, and in fact has a bridge over. If B&H got naughty again, they could turn it into a lake just by dumping enough clay from the bridge.
I mean they did try to genocide them a few years later so…
Weren’t the Bosnians and Croatians more or less on the same side during the Yugoslav wars?
It’s sort of a Missouri during the civil war situation.
The official militia presence of Croatia joined with serboans and created a militia… And the exact same thing happened on the other side. (VJ, HVO)
It was more a religious issue than nationality.
Ancient Illyria: “Am I a joke to you?”
