• geekwithsoul
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    2920 hours ago

    From the Quinnipac results PDF the article linked to:

    In today’s poll, Republicans 93 – 6 percent back Trump, while Democrats 94 – 5 percent back Harris. Among independents, 47 percent back Trump, 44 percent back Harris, 3 percent back Stein, and 2 percent back Oliver.

    In a hypothetical two-way race between Harris and Trump, Trump receives 48 percent support and Harris receives 48 percent support.

    Why, it’s almost as if you’ve posted the perfect explanation about why it’s so important not to throw your vote away on a third party candidate that has no chance of winning. Thanks so much for proving the point that all of us have been repeatedly telling you.

    Thanks so much friend!

      • geekwithsoul
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        1117 hours ago

        To be this dedicated to getting Trump elected is almost impressive. You seem to be putting more effort into getting him elected than the combined effort put in by all the third-party presidential candidates to win themselves.

        I mean, look at your favorite du jour, Claudia de la Cruz. Eleven events over the next month (the last month before the election) and eight of them are in California (which is useless to her other than that sweet, sweet fundraising). One event in Oregon, one in Wisconsin, and one in Arizona (where she’s not even on the ballot or registered for write-ins).

        Can’t say I agree with your politics or your methods, friend, but to be so committed to a cause is something I guess.

        • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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          Thank you!

          But remember: every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!

          If you really want to avoid a Trump win, supporting a viable alternative outside the two-party system is the only way to push the conversation forward.

          Also, I do really like Claudia de la Cruz, but I’m not voting for her. Thank you!

          • @[email protected]
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            every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change Trump, transparently even

          • @[email protected]
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            Yes, in local elections. No, in national elections. Even if everyone dropped the DNC and voted a third party into the Presidential office, third parties don’t just appear as permanent major contenders due to winning one election. Not to mention the congressional support they’d need to pass anything. You sound kinda like me when I was younger, so I really do hope you’re trolling so you can avoid the sudden realization of what exactly you’re suggesting. Splitting the vote is a real thing that can happen if a majority faction schisms into two minority factions. Unless you’re absolutely positive that whatever third party is already going to get more votes than Harris, voting third party is splitting the progressive vote. If you want to establish a third party, go out into your county and campaign for one at a local level. Get a regional voter base and work toward a congressional campaign. Seriously, nobody’s stopping you. I would love to see people doing that. But please don’t pretend this pipe dream of electing a third party straight to the highest office in the land (with no legislative or judicial support) is the answer to the future.

            • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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              As I said, I personally believe that supporting a viable alternative outside the two-party system is the only way to push the conversation forward.

          • geekwithsoul
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            Also, I do really like Claudia de la Cruz, but I’m not voting for her. Thank you!

            Oh right, you’re supporting Fruit - who has ONE event in the next month. https://themilitant.com/events/ Sorry, you just spend all your time talking about literally anyone else, I guess it slipped my mind.

            And they only have access to 25 out of 538 electors because of how limited their ballot access is. Really backing a dynamic and legitimate campaign there, friend! So brave.

            • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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              Sorry, you just spend all your time talking about literally anyone else, I guess it slipped my mind.

              Um… https://lemmy.world/c/swp

              Really backing a dynamic and legitimate campaign there, friend! So brave.

              I’m voting for the candidate who aligns with my values. And that is not your candidate. :)

              I’m proud of who I am voting for.

              • geekwithsoul
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                010 hours ago

                Believe it or not, unlike you I don’t follow people around and interject myself in comment threads ten deep. So happy you have such an active outlet for your…

                Oh wait, hmm, that looks pretty sad actually. Not many takers, huh? Latest four posts are all from you over three days and you can’t even manage to get upvoted in your own community. I’d say it was hilarious that you thought that was evidence of something, but now you’ve just made me sad friend.

                • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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                  you can’t even manage to get upvoted in your own community.

                  You say that as if it would matter to me. Unlike you, I don’t care about upvotes or downotes very much. I think it’s hilarious that people are so quick to downvote, but I don’t really care that much.

                  And who cares how deep a comment is? If I am reading the comments and find one that I want to respond to, I respond.

                  I don’t look, nor do i care, where it is in the thread or how many threads deep it is. I find it funny that It’s so important to you though! lol

                  What “takers” are you referring to? I post articles I find interesting. If they find an audience, cool. If they don’t find an audience, cool. I don’t write them, I just post them, friend. :)

      • @[email protected]
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        Just plug your ears and go “LA LA LA LA LA LA” every time anyone shows you facts (or shit, you show yourself since you’re OP of this post) that show you are 100% throwing your vote away.

        Just remember this when Trump wins by a margin smaller than the third party vote. The blood of the Ukrainians, Palestinians, and others that will perish as a direct result of Trump winning will be on your hands.

        • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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          I don’t have to explain anything to you. And no blood on my hands because I’m not voting for Trump. :)

          • @barsquid
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            On Lemmy campaigning for MAGA every day and then pretending you didn’t contribute to whatever outcome occurs.

  • @Today
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    As uncomfortable as it is, we really need for the polls to stay close so people vote. Too much difference is either deflating or overconfident.

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        1818 hours ago

        Oh, they’ve said repeatedly that they are “not afraid of Trump winning” and the statements about the dangers of another Trump are “fear-mongering” and “exaggerations.”

        Absolutely screams only the kind of privilege you see in middle class, white, cis, hetero males. Honestly sort of surprised they’re not spouting Ayn Rand bs, but definitely the same vibe.

        • @[email protected]
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          Nah, brah, they are a TrAnSrAcIaL mOrMoN sAtAnIsT who recently went from being a viking on their profile to a Skyrim-style cool ass black warrior. This is how you know they are completely real and not fake in any way. And don’t you forget it – this mother fucker is 100% WoKeFrEe!

        • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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          middle class, white, cis, hetero males.

          So are you saying those are bad things? Are you trying to judge or shame people for how they were born or their skin color?! Why did you bring race and sexuality into this?!

          Wow. Just wow. Pretty icky. I can’t take anything you say seriously now. You are showing your true colors.

          • @[email protected]
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            The are obviously saying it’s gross that you would let other people suffer since you apparently belong to a group of people that won’t suffer for your actions. But sure, go ahead and cram a bunch of words in someone’s mouth in an effort from distract from what you are doing.

          • geekwithsoul
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            614 hours ago

            Ha! You are a precious snowflake my friend! I offered no condemnation or even opinion on any of those things. Strange that’s where your mind went to though.

            I just suggested that you evidenced the kind of privilege really only ever seen amongst a certain demographic. Are you saying people in that demographic aren’t privileged? Are you denying the systemic oppression to women and people of color? The enforced economic disadvantage on the poor and working class?!

            It’s almost laughable that you call yourself a socialist.

            • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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              I’m not even in the demographic that you tried to mock me with. Do you think all people in that demographic are privileged?!

              I’m not denying oppression of women or color. My mother is black. I don’t even know why you are bringing those things up.

              I’m starting to see your true colors. Ewww…

              • geekwithsoul
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                210 hours ago

                Ah yes - “Pretend confusion followed by dramatic exaggerated disgust (from obvious twist of words)”

                Playing the classics!

          • geekwithsoul
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            817 hours ago

            Well, I guess since you thanked me for it, the summary is 100% accurate. Good to know, friend!

            • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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              Thanking you for something doesn’t mean you got it right. But you tried. So hey, as long as you are trying, friend.

              I’m still not voting for you candidate. :)

              • geekwithsoul
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                115 hours ago

                That’s okay, no one with any brains is voting for yours. Since you switched from Stein, your candidate won’t even crack .05%. So while half the country may vote against my candidate, at least 99.95% aren’t voting for yours.

                • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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                  Well then you have no reason to get mad or worry about anything, right? I mean, our numbers are so pitiful, you have no reason to be upset. :)

          • @[email protected]
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            Doubt it. The campaign you’ve embarked here would not make much sense for you do engage in if you were going to do so.

      • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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        Don’t care. Still not voting for either one of them. :)

        • @[email protected]
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          You know all of Lemmy can see right through you, right? Just say you want Trump to win and we can all move on.

          • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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            If I wanted Trump to win, I’d vote for him. But I’m not voting for him. Thank you!

            • @[email protected]
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              If you care so little about the performance of the 2 major parties of the US electoral system, why did you even bother to post the original article?

              • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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                It’s political news, this is a political news sub. I didn’t write the write the article.

                • @[email protected]
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                  Posting to Lemmy is always optional, if you find an article you’re apathetic about you don’t actually have to post or crosspost it. Try again.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah dude, we know you don’t care.

          Like the other person said… We all see through you. You’d be making better use of your time shilling somewhere else.

          • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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            Well if you seem to think I am making poor use of my time, then you shouldn’t be afraid of what I am posting. You have nothing to worry about, right?!

          • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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            shilling

            So is every poster that posts a news article here, “shilling”? Because if so there seem to be a lot of shillers for Harris.

            I support and respect your right to vote for who you want to. And you support and respect my right to vote for who I want to, right?

        • @ccunning
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          That’s some top tier bad faith logic right there…

          • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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            How so? That’s the exact mindset of many people who post here.

            • @ccunning
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              The comic’s logic; not you posting it. I completely believe the comic fooled you.

              • Socialist Chaos TrowOP
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                I have voted third party since before you were born. No comic fooled me, friend. Thank you!

                • @ccunning
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                  I have voted third party since before you were born

                  Not sure what this has to do with what I said?? Just throwing around ‘appeal to age’ fallacies for the fun of it? Wow. Your old. Congratulations on not dying yet? Also, you’re just wrong.

                  No comic fooled me

                  It seems to. Happy to hear back from you once you’ve figured out where it gotcha…

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