• Alphane MoonOPM
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      310 hours ago

      I don’t believe SMIC has commercially viable 5 nm.

  • NaibofTabr
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    1010 hours ago

    Er… so China is closing the gap then. A+ for the attempt at positive framing.

  • @Valmond
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    311 hours ago

    No worries, we’ll hit a hard wall somewhere around 5nm because moores law is dead!! \s

    • Alphane MoonOPM
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      510 hours ago

      Arguably Moore’s law is indeed dead. But that doesn’t mean we can’t get improvements from other areas like advanced packaging, chip power supply and so on…

      • @Valmond
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        210 hours ago

        You missed the /s I don’t think moores law is that dead.

        • Alphane MoonOPM
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          610 hours ago

          I guess that would depend on your interpretation of Moore’s law.

          Improvement in semiconductor performance is clearly not dead.

          But “[relatively] easy automatic wins” from moving to a new node are starting to become less common. Prices for new nodes are not getting cheaper (even on a standardized basis), performance/efficiency/size gains are becoming more modest and ramp-up/deployment times are becoming longer and longer.

          • @Valmond
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            Yeah true, no need to nitpick about transistors per mm² :-)

            Stuff gets denser, sometimes more efficient, and it goes on and on, more to the rhyme of international markets today than trying to keep up with old Moore.

            It also feels like the target market have changed (again), from better PCs to handhelds, for example.

  • @NegativeLookBehind
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    210 hours ago

    I just started the book called Chip Wars. Super interesting so far!