This is why cheaply rolling out renewables isn’t enough — it’s going to take having a supply constraint of some sort on fossil fuels as well

    • @[email protected]OPM
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      12 days ago

      It probably takes more than that; for example, when whale oil become uncompetitive for lighting because kerosene was cheaper, the whalers started turning it into margarine.

      • HubertManne
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        22 days ago

        That could be fine in the sense that if its not burning it that is better. Although we don’t need more plastics for sure.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 day ago

    Fossil fuel has actually pretty high fixed production costs. The best example was Texan oil going negative during covid. So with a fast deployment of renewables replacing fossil fuels, we will see periods of fossil fuels being cheap, as renewables replaced enough of them to see oversupply. However low prices also force production to be cut, partly by companies going bankrupt. Once enough has been cut prices are going up again.

    Right now we see a number of OPEC+ countries breaking production limits. Namely Russia, Iraq and Kazakhstan. The Saudis see Iran heading towards a war with Israel and the Saudis want to hurt Iran. So the Saudis threaten increased oil production to hurt Iran’s economy. That would also hurt fracking producers in the US, which would also benefit the Saudis.

    • The Snark Urge
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      22 days ago

      It’s a nightmare. No amount of good can unmake this economic demon

    • @[email protected]
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      This is expected. Oil prize has been on the decline for some time. I didn’t expect demand to erode this fast, though. which I guess is kinda a good thing.

      The only way forward is for renewables to become even cheaper that fossils. Which can be done. The EUs fit-for-55 will bring down energy prizes. Summertime we will see really low electricity prizes the comming decade in Europe because of this.