This is more of me trying to understand how people imagine things, as I almost certainly have Aphantasia and didn’t realize until recently… If this is against community rules, please do let me know.

The original thought experiment was from the Aphantasia subreddit. Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aphantasia/comments/g1e6bl/ball_on_a_table_visualization_experiment_2/

Thought experiment begins below.

Try this: Visualise (picture, imagine, whatever you want to call it) a ball on a table. Now imagine someone walks up to the table, and gives the ball a push. What happens to the ball?

Once you're done with the above, click to review the test questions:
  • What color was the ball?
  • What gender was the person that pushed the ball?
  • What did they look like?
  • What size is the ball? Like a marble, or a baseball, or a basketball, or something else?
  • What about the table, what shape was it? What is it made of?

And now the important question: Did you already know, or did you have to choose a color/gender/size, etc. after being asked these questions?


  • AmidFuror
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    No matter how much I tried to focus, all I can see is Mickey Mouse in a magician’s cap trying to control buckets and mops.

    I might have hyperfantasia.

  • @zlatiahOP
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    Oh my! I didn’t know what to expect, and I have to say… I was quite surprised by some of your answers. Also confirmed to me that I am definitely not normal

    Not many replies that are indicative of Aphantasia so… here goes nothing. I tried really hard at this okay

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    I don’t “see” see anything when I close my eyes. I can create a very vague concept of a ball, a table, and… kind of a person in my head, but I don’t actually see the scene, I used to think when people say imagining things they were just making a metaphor. Things get really funk from here… But the overall schema feels more like one of those badly drawn scenes from the hit visual novel Slay the Princess. And yes I imagined it in 2D for some reason

    • Color: the ball doesn’t have a color
    • Gender: it wasn’t even a real person; it seems like a silhouette of the hand and back of a person
    • Looks: As I said, the person isn’t even facing me
    • Size: No idea; in retrospect it’s fairly large compared to the table (diameter probably 1/2-1/3 of table?), but the table is also an abstract concept so…
    • Table: no clue, it is a square table but that’s it. If anything it looks like the things served on Pizza Hut pizzas
    • Well I spoiled the question for myself so… but I didn’t have to choose, heck I couldn’t choose even if I know what the questions are

  • 2ugly2live
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    My answers:
    • What color was the ball? Red
    • What gender was the person that pushed the ball?: seen from the bust, but a masculine physique
    • What did they look like?: Grey shirt, light skinned, clean nails, hands looks slightly worn.
    • What size is the ball? Like a marble, or a baseball, or a basketball, or something else?: Tennis ball size. Smooth and has a good bounce, but sounds solid.
    • What about the table, what shape was it? What is it made of? Rectangle. Wooden. Smooth, but had a knot in it.

    And now the important question: Did you already know, or did you have to choose a color/gender/size, etc. after being asked these questions?

    I already knew? . I had to visualize it first to answer any questions.


  • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown
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    • The ball was red and smooth and uniform and shaded like it had been painted there or drawn with colored pencil.
    • the gender of the person was indeterminate, perhaps leaning female
    • they did not have a definite look to describe, it was more a concept of a person. They were a featureless, fuzzy, void-white silhouette adorned only by a similarly featureless light blue t-shirt, black pants and black hair, all so ill-defined it was as if they they had been hastily cut from craft paper and slapped over top the glowing form, paper. Like the scheme of the fitness boxing mascot, but the more simplified like South Park Canadians, and blurry at the edges
    • the ball was slightly larger than a baseball but smaller than a softball
    • the table was rectangular, of beige ‘wood’ with a light grain, and very sharp edges. It looked distinctly like it was out of a low poly video game.

    Important question: The ball and table were distinct and known but oddly not “real-life”. The person was very indistinct and the gender is merely speculation. The edges defining their arms and hands became more defined as they approached and interacted with the ball. The color and form of the clothing and hair manifested then too.

    Interestingly, I “know” the visualization took place in my kitchen, in an orientation different than my actual kitchen table. I saw the light from the windows Illuminate the table and the ball, and I could tell where I was in the space watching it happen, but the kitchen wasn’t there and neither was I. The table, ball and person appeared alone in a murky dark void.

  • Tiefling IRL
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    • The ball was red
    • The person was of indeterminate gender, I only really saw their arm
    • They were wearing a blue button up over a white shirt
    • The ball is about the size of an orange, and it rolled forwards
    • The table was made of wood

    I had to picture it again to get the shirt color but not the rest. I can say that the background was dark, almost like a dimly lit billiards hall, and there was a light shining on the ball

  • RiverGhost
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    All these details were present from only reading the title:

    A very large and heavy marble that you’d need to pick up with both hands to hold. A man was already there keeping a hand on the marble, to prevent it from rolling on the wooden table. The table is simple, square and has 4 legs. I know what the marble would sound like if it were to roll, bumping over the little imperfections. This is happening indoors, but there’s some natural light coming through. The table is relatively close to the edge of a room but you can still approach the table from all sides. The room is mostly undefined besides that. The man is not too detailed, I have a vague awareness of what he is like, but more like a gestalt of him.

    After reading the prompt: The man rolled the ball with a soft push. It produced the expected sound and then he stopped it again before it fell. I felt anxiety when the ball rolled, and was relieved when it was stopped. I want to put it on soft cloth so that we can stop worrying about it rolling off the table. There’s soft cloth nearby, and it’s purple felt.

    I have hyperfantasia.

  • aramis87
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    Blue. Didn’t really envision a person, just the hand, didn’t notice the potential sex. It was a billiard ball on a pool table. The ball kinda rolled gently across the table at an angle, hit the side, and slowly rolled back before stopping.

  • @Today
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    A vague thought of a ball and knowledge of what would happen. Nothing else.

  • @Godnroc
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    • What color was the ball? Blue
    • What gender was the person that pushed the ball? Male
    • What did they look like? Skinny, pants, dress shirt
    • What size is the ball? Like a marble, or a baseball, or a basketball, or something else? Blue, smooth, baseball sized
    • What about the table, what shape was it? What is it made of? Around 2ft square, wooden, light color, four square legs

    All of this was built in my head with each part of the prompt. Pretty sure I don’t have aphantasia.

  • pruwyben
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    Very interesting!

    My results

    The ball was about the size of a baseball, and the table was square, but I couldn’t answer any of the other questions without just making something up when they were asked.

  • Clay_pidgin
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    52 hours ago

    I imagined a sort of physics textbook diagram, not real objects. There was no person, only an arrow indicating the applied force on the ball!

    • @[email protected]
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      That’s how I did it too. There is a sphere on a plane. A force is applied to the sphere, parallel to the plane. Neither the sphere nor the plane have a defined color, size, material, etc. Nothing specific pushed the sphere.

      My job is often to mathematically model the things people say to me, and in those circumstances thinking like this is correct.

      I don’t think this way when I daydream, although the visual components of my daydreams are more like the feelings I get when I look at something than like concrete mental pictures.

  • Bear
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    Colorless. Genderless. The forbidden lovechild of Bongo Bongo and Turnip Head. Ping Pong sized. Rounded wooden table.

    Visualizing takes work so generally only what’s needed is there. But sometimes the darker thoughts escape out from the dungeon.

  • @[email protected]
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    I find it very interesting that the vast majority of people saw a red ball. I did too.

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    1. red
    2. Indeterminate, mostly just an arm
    3. shoulder-length brown hair, androgenous body, hidden face
    4. Like a rubber bouncy ball you’d get in a party bag
    5. wooden, square

    Mostly I already knew, but it felt like things were “filling in” as I tried to “remember” the image to answer the questions, especially around the person.

    :::

  • Hegar
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    11 hour ago

    Red No gender No appearance No size The table was the same color as our dining table, but that was the only property it had.

  • @jordanlund
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    • What color was the ball? - Red rubber, like an old school dodgeball.
    • What gender was the person that pushed the ball? - Unknown, all I saw was a hand and the sleeve of a white dress shirt with the cuff rolled up.
    • What did they look like? As above.
    • What size is the ball? Like a marble, or a baseball, or a basketball, or something else? About the size of a softball. Bigger than a baseball, smaller than a basketball.
    • What about the table, what shape was it? What is it made of? Square natural wooden table.

    Already knew.