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Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.
Original Broadway Poster:
Movie poster:
Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen
“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”
So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.
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If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.
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Huh. This is why you need a PR team.
The ego and vanity is astounding. And the movie poster sucks because she’s looking straight at the camera.
Totally proportionate reaction.
Bit of an overreaction if you ask me
Theatre kids gonna theatre
This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen
Congratulations I guess?
It’s nice to know her problems are absolutely miniscule.
Imo the fan one is better. They should have done the red lipstick with a smirk rather than green and looking bored.
I read the text before the post title and thought it was some witchymemes joke rant about people stereotyping witches which would have been kinda funny. A shame that she’s serious.
As an occultist, I was offended. /s
One thing I’ve noticed over time is that people in Hollywood are pretty normal.
/s
If it was her decision that her full face should be on display, the backlash should be evidence enough that someone else gets paid to make those decisions, not her.
The original looks boring. She has absolutely no emotions on her face. There’s no mystique, no ‘wickedness’. Even the composition looks like something a high schooler in Photoshop class would make.
The edit isn’t perfect either. But at least it pays homage to the original in more than just image. It adds that mystique back, and makes her look more menacing.
What it truly boils down to is ego. Although the edit is better, and so many people agree on it, it doesn’t show her full face. And she can’t let that go.
Guaranteed this whole thing came up before that it didn’t match the style. She showed her cards and now makes it sound like she was the one who pushed against matching the original. Now that the fans see it and dislike it (probably like they warned that fans would), she’s mad about it. It really sounds like she pushed for this design so it wouldn’t hide her face and now she’s furious that fans reacted in the exact way that was predicted.
The edit looks ridiculous, how is it better?
I’m not mixing this up right?
The first picture with the red lipstick is the fan made photo?
where you can’t see half her face?
that is fucking weird.
The original looks so much better.
what are you talking about there’s no emotions on her face?
in the fan edit they took away half her face!
this is crazy that people like the fan edit, It’s like if you cut an origami crane in half, drew a smiley face on it with a Sharpie and you were like “yeah that’s better.”
Imagine there was a live action Bleach remake where the actor bullied their way into having Ichigo’s sword green and freaked out at fans when they edited it to make it look right. Then your dumbass comes in acting like everyone is wrong and the remake isn’t actual garbage.
It’s like you don’t have a single gram of artistic vision or social awareness behind your eyes.
what a terribly irrelevant analogy you’ve left on the floor:
“Imagine there was a live action Bleach remake where the actor bullied their way into having Ichigo’s sword green and freaked out at fans when they edited it to make it look right”
completely unrelated to the current situation.
Cynthia hasn’t even asked the fan to revert their art.
not at all the same thing.
your actor is a bullying asshole demanding people do what they say and change the art direction of the production according to their preferences.
Cynthia has been erased from the official art of her production and would like people to know that being erased from art featuring her is offensive and hurts her feelings.
she is not making demands, she is expressing her valid feelings.
It’s selfish, shameful and offensive for anyone, including you, to disrespect and dismiss the feelings of others.
Are you completely retarded? She’s an actress. She’s supposed to portray the artwork, not herself. She’s the bullying asshole trying to self insert.
“Are you completely retarded?”
no.
“She’s an actress.”
yes.
“She’s supposed to portray the artwork, not herself.”
so there’s no difference between any actor? Ian mckellen was just chosen randomly off the street with no regard for his experience, look or ability to act?
that is an objectively false understanding of how acting works.
“She’s the bullying asshole trying to self insert.”
projecting much?
she is not bullying anyone.
Cynthia is expressing how she feels in reaction to being erased from official artwork of her production featuring her.
half of her face, most of her hair was erased from that poster.
she’s not even demanding the poster be changed, she is letting people know how being erased makes her feel.
it makes her feel very bad.
you are dehumanizing her and disrespecting her feelings, that she, as a human, is entitled to.
you are the bully.
That was never the point. I’m not commenting on if it’s better or not. Her reaction to something a fan made is what we’re all talking about.
Nerve status: Struck
As we all know snapping at the fans, especially over matters of source material accuracy, always works out well for everyone involved in the making of the adaptation.
Fans did a service on that one
I mean that fan poster looks terrible, so I get why she’s pissed.
fans prefer that poster?
weirdos.
let people enjoy erasing someone’s face and hurting their feelings?
that’s not okay and it’s offensive and shameful to defend them.
Face erasing is an odd way to say shaded their eyes to match an earlier poster.
I didn’t see that one.
in this fan poster, they completely coloured over the top half of her face and her hair, which are very striking in the original artwork, then colored her lips bright red.
It’s a pretty weird edit.
they even messed up the sky.
It’s not about her feelings. It doesn’t need to be. When I play chess, it’s got nothing to do with the person who carved the pieces.
“It’s not about her feelings.”
It’s literally all about her feelings. her personal feelings are what her entire statement is about.
how she was erased from art featuring her and how that affected her.
“When I play chess, it’s got nothing to do with the person who carved the pieces.”
what a coincidence, it also has nothing to do with this situation.
The art isn’t featuring her. It’s depicting a character. The fan art is depicting the character better than she is. She’s literally failing at her job and complaining about the people doing it better for her.
Seeing as you’re obviously here arguing in bad faith just to troll, I’m not replying to you anymore. You’re not fooling anyone.
It’s depicting a character featuring the real person Cynthia Erivo who you are dehumanizing.
“She’s literally failing at her job…”
no, she isn’t, and there’s zero evidence for this. being erased as an actress is not her job.
her job was to be featured on the official artwork, which she did.
she is succeeding at her job.
for some reason you are dehumanizing her.
“complaining about the people doing it better for her.”
this is also not true. she is not complaining about anyone.
she is complaining about edited changes to her identity that have hurt her feelings.
she is sharing her personal experience. You are dehumanizing her and dismissing her feelings.
“you’re obviously here arguing in bad faith just to troll”
trolls often dehumanize and dismiss the feelings of others, especially minorities, as you are doing.
trolls do not support the validity of human expression and sharing feelings, as I am doing.
you’re the troll here, you’re the bully, you’re the problem, and I honestly don’t think you’re even aware of how dehumanizing and disrespectful you’re being.
Being a public figure or an actor in a piece of art invites criticism. If they can’t handle that basic fact, get a new career or a therapist
“Being a public figure or an actor in a piece of art invites criticism”
being an actor does not invalidate a person’s feelings.
“If they can’t handle that basic fact”
she is handling it by expressing herself, letting people know what erasing her image makes her feel like.
your disrespect and dismissal of her personal feelings is disgusting.
She’s literally playing a fantasy witch who has already been played by dozens of other actresses. She’s the only one out of all of the previous ones to get upset about this.
If she wants to be noticed for her face, then playing an iconic villain who has been played so many times before isn’t her place to be. Fans care about elphaba, her character. She is new to the franchise and making demands of fans who have loved the character much longer than she’s been in it.
fanart is valid.
she is not “making demands”.
The actor is telling people that it hurts her for them to erase her face from the poster.
“She’s literally playing a fantasy witch who has already been played by dozens of other actresses.”
that does not make this actor less of a person who deserves basic courtesy and respect.
“She’s the only one out of all of the previous ones to get upset about this.”
being erased is upsetting. she is allowed to be upset.
“If she wants to be noticed for her face, then playing an iconic villain who has been played so many times before isn’t her place to be”
victim blaming.
Just play the character, we don’t care who you are.
shameful.
“She is new to the franchise”
you should still respect her feelings.
Her feelings are unjustified and come off as narcissistic. I would be more open to the idea that she was being erased if she wasn’t on literally every other poster for the movie. Fans made a poster that they felt more closely resembles the original poster from the franchise that was made over 20 years ago. To assume anything else is a very large stretch.
For her to react this negatively over a fan making their own version of a poster says a great deal more about her, and to me does more damage to her reputation than a poster ever could.
There are literally entire sites and databases dedicated to fan generated poster art. The entire Harry Potter series has thousands of posters that don’t include the actors faces and are based off the books. Are those “erasing” the actors? Have we seen Ian mckellan go on a tirade because fans made a two towers poster that doesn’t include his face? No, because it’s not about them and they don’t care.
If her feelings are hurt over one tiny person making a poster that doesn’t include her face then that’s her problem she needs to tackle herself, not dump on the people who were excited to see her play elphaba.
So yeah. I’m not accepting the victim blaming title because i don’t see her as a victim. She made herself a victim in her own mind when one fan did this. You know who I see as the victim? The fan who was probably really excited to see this movie, so excited they made their own poster, and then had the Hollywood celebrity call them out publicly who now has people like you defending her for basically calling this person (who again all we know is just a super big Wicked fan) basically the devil
Literally all she had to do was nothing and it would have passed with no one noticing.
“Her feelings are unjustified and come off as narcissistic.”
her own feelings are justified and not subject to your or anyone’s approval.
her feelings are justified.
they come off as narcissistic only to you because you do not see her as deserving of feelings.
this is your problem, not hers.
“For her to react this negatively over a fan making their own version of a poster says a great deal more about her, and to me does more damage to her reputation than a poster ever could.”
her reaction does not invalidate her feelings or her basic humanity, both of which you are shamefully dismissing as irrelevant.
“Have we seen Ian mckellan go on a tirade because fans made a two towers poster that doesn’t include his face?”
this situation is about a different person, Cynthia erivo, whose feelings were hurt, not Ian, whose feelings were not hurt.
“that’s her problem she needs to tackle herself,”
she is. she is explaining her feelings to the public, which as an actor is very natural.
she isn’t attacking other people, she didn’t “dump on the people”, she is explaining how she was hurt and how this feels to her, personally.
read her statement, you apparently have no idea what it says.
“now has people like you defending her for basically calling this person (who again all we know is just a super big Wicked fan) basically the devil.”
neither erivo in her statement nor i here have called the creator " basically the devil" or attacked this person at all, in any way.
we’re talking about the feelings of Cynthia, and her basic humanity, which you are shamefully dismissing as irrelevant.
there was no attack in this statement, it is an explanation of how she feels as a result of being erased from a work she cares about.
you don’t respect and are dismissing her perspective, feelings and her right to express her feelings, which is offensive and shameful of you.
Well I think it was offensive of Cynthia to erase the original artist’s vision and it’s shameful of you to defend her.
Both of you have hurt my feelings, and therefore you are in the wrong.
“I think it was offensive of Cynthia to erase the original artist’s vision”
this didn’t happen.
she’s literally bringing the character to life.
“it’s shameful of you to defend her.”
no, you’re using that word wrong.
you attacking someone for being hurt is shameful.
“Both of you have hurt my feelings, and therefore you are in the wrong.”
If this is true, you are hurt from your own actions of hurting another person.
you are in the wrong.
she’s literally bringing the character to lie.
Fantastic typo
how exciting for you.
Thanks, you insufferable cabbage
When you are an actor portraying a character, especially a character that is a cultural touchstone, you are lending your voice and appearance to that character.
I understand the emotional reaction but I think many actors would say, ‘that isn’t your face they are retouching, it is your character’s. Learn the difference for best results.’
they might say that, and they would be incorrect.
The reason the audience have that character and picture to play with is because that actor is putting themselves out there.
they are erasing her identity, the identity of the real person behind the character, and after she has told people that erasing her identity is offensive and hurtful, you are all making fun of her.
respect her perspective and reaction.
what is happening here and what you all are saying is offensive and shameful.
they might say that, and they would be incorrect.
Thank you for demonstrating this concept so ably with the entirety of your comment.
you’re welcome.
I never liked bullies, and I like you all less now.
being proud of erasing someone after is shameful of you. bearing indignant Pride in their pain when they tell you it hurts them is shameful of you.
leave Britney alone!
