The controversy is over a two-page document that was handed out to classrooms at Kapolei Middle School.
It broke down where the U.S. presidential candidates — Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris and Republican former President Donald Trump — stand on the issues.
The state Department of Education confirms the document was put together by a group of teachers at the school who simplified the information in a candidate comparison article in the New York Times.
The material given out to students lists six issues.
CRIME
Harris: “Gives money to police”
Trump: “Sends soldiers to cities”
DEMOCRACY
Harris: “Wants to keep our country a democracy”
Trump: “Tried to overturn the 2020 election
IMMIGRATION
Harris: “Hires more people to watch the border”
Harris: “Limits how many people can move to the U.S.
Trump: “Finds and catches people in the U.S. illegally”
Trump: “Takes children away from their parents”
When I was in the 8th grade I tried asking what the difference was. A friend of mine at the time, who was kinda smart albeit the son of a rich dentist, summed it up by saying “Democrats want to give money to the homeless while republicans want to create jobs for the homeless”. It made sense at the time and held some truth for a decade or 2.
Whereas now it’s “democrats try to get homeless people back on their feet, republicans make being homeless illegal”
So some parents whine because truth hurts, or what? Or is there a single item that is not easily verifyable?
They are phrasing it in a way that makes plausible deniability harder!
The truth doesn’t reflect well on Trump. That’s the fucking point! Instead they bitch that it was unfair. How can they be so fucking stupid to miss the entire point!
These are literally all factual. If they don’t want to look bad on paper maybe they shouldn’t be fascists.
Not a single Trumper can explain why this was unfair because their homie likes to grab pussy and fucks underage girls with Epstein.
And actually said/did all these things listed.
“The MeDyA Is UnFaIr!!1!”
For just stating how your favorite little guy is?
Yeah, the truth about Trump is pretty ugly when you don’t bury it beneath talking points, or obscure it with incoherent rants. “Biodegradable cattle byproduct” sounds okay, but it’s still bullshit.
pretty ugly when you don’t bury it beneath talking points, or obscure it with incoherent rants
Or outright blatant, easily proven lies.
I like how when you put the two candidates into 8th grade level language, the differences become so stark. There really isn’t room for additional interpretation.
Also, I’m not surprised its Kapolei parents getting outraged at this, things get fairly red once you get out of Honolulu and especially as you get onto the West Side. You’ll see a Trump flag being towed along side a Kanaka Maoli flag, a back the blue flag, AND a Hawaiian kingdom flag. I’m glad to see the DOE not budging on this.
Got a chuckle seeing this clown running for office. Not surprised though, a lot of people here are insane.
He got my vote.
I’ve been in Honolulu this past week and saw loud Trump supporter caravans going through the city twice, loud group of Trump supporters in front of the state capitol, and another one I don’t remember where. Not sure what they’re trying to achieve with all this.
Almost guarantee they are Westside.
Seems remarkably honest, much more honest than our presidential candidates.
Agreed. About the only way they could increase their objectivity would be by using the candidate’s own, recent words on the various topics.
Somehow, I think there would be far more outrage if they had done that…
Aw, are the republicans upset that the children aren’t getting their propaganda? That’s so sad for them.
“Wants to make it easier to guns”
I think you a word there
I wish it was easier to these guns
Flexes nonexistent biceps
Should they have included each candidate’s stance on grabbing women by their privates?
Are current politics something usually discussed in US middle schools? They’re like what, 14? Or is there a separate civics class?
I’m pretty sure if a questionairre that fluffs Trump instead of Harris is passed out to children, people would be yelling fascism.
The problem is with spreading propaganda in school. There’s just too much history and philosophy to cover to get a sense for modern policy, unless you have a special class for it maybe in high school.
I love how even a biased take, trying to paint Harris much further left than she actually is, still went hard on Harris’ right-wing anti-immigration policies as if they were a good thing. LoL.
I need a copy of this!
I read the headline and thought the controversy was probably stupid. Then I read the comparisons.
They should have pulled out planks from the party platforms. At least write what the party says it is going to do in its own words. It’s OK to simplify, but this list is heavily editorialized. I don’t know how much of that was from the NYT article (editorial?) and how much was the teacher’s take.
I think it would be fine to have these characterizations of each party’s policies in Speech & Debate coming from the opponents.
It’s a comparison between Harris and Trump, not between the parties.
In theory the candidate supports and has a heavy influence over the party platform.
So that’s either true in practice, in which case there’s no problem putting the candidates’ views there, since they represent the party too; or it’s false in practice, in which case the candidates’ views should be there, because that’s who you’re voting for.
My point is they are putting up views they ascribe to the candidate. It would be better to quote a written or spoken statement.
I guess people can’t figure this out without having it reversed so they can understand it. Imagine a school district in Idaho handing out a lesson to students where they characterized the candidates’ positions thusly:
Abortion Trump: Opposed to baby-killing Harris: Allows baby-killing in most cases.
So you’re saying that some of the answers are flat out lies like in your example?
At least write what the party says it is going to do
No, they should present what each party actually tries to do. No more lies.
