Oh boy, it’s happening. Google is flexing it’s muscles and abusing it’s market position. It has never been a better way to convince and support family and friends in moving across to Firefox, a fast and privacy supporting browser.
Today is the day I finally move to Firefox and away from brave. No chromium based browser is safe, and I just can’t do it anymore. Fuck google and fuck this entire money hungry system. None of this serves the user.
Makes me sick and sad for my kids’ future reality.
Good for you! It’s a great browser.
I also really worry about what the future will look like, change is really rapid right now, and not in a good way.
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What does it actually do? And will it affect at all if I use Firefox?
Mozilla and Firefox opposed this change. How much impact this has on if you if you use Firefox is yet to be seen.
If this change goes in, and has wide spread use, then Firefox won’t work with those websites, and you will be impacted. If this change goes in, but enough people use Firefox, then you won’t be impacted.
As for what this change does: Its a little murky, but the short version is it allows for a remote web server to verify if you have messed with the local version. This could be as simple as preventing Ad block from working, as useful as ensuring it’s not a bot interacting with your website, or as idiotic as breaking all accessibility tools.
TL;DR; Use Firefox.
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It’s up to the individual websites to use it or not, any websites I would use probably wouldn’t use it. Hopefully the only website I need to access that is not FOSS, my mobile banking website, won’t use it.
I fear it’ll start with banking and streaming and eventually get rolled out. I fear if we don’t block this at the start, it will eventually keep rolling. It’ll be like a snowball rolling down hill, we need to stop it getting on to the slope.
I’m going to be really pissed if US banks implement this for “security” but still won’t implement TOTP 2FA.
This article is also useful to understand it: https://lemmy.ml/post/2483035
I started the process of degoogling today. I am even switching peoples search engines at work to duckduckgo.
You legend. :)
Any good 2FA or MFA that aren’t google? I’m using their authenticator unfortunately
Authenticator Pro https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/me.jmh.authenticatorpro is what I use
I think Authy is worth checking out if you want to get away from Google, but there are FOSS alternatives that hopefully someone else can mention as my knowledge ain’t great in this area.
when the fuck are these bullshit fucking monopolies going to be broken up? They need to be broken up.
No government has the balls to act. More accurately, the lobbyists seem to be quite effective and the politicians often spineless and self-serving.
We’ll hit them where it hurts. Market share. Google, you’re no longer trusted to dictate web standards anymore. Websites must support Firefox as well as chrome. We need Firefox to have enough market share that companies wouldn’t risk losing x% of their userbase and therefore revenues.
Hmm. It’s a sad sad world we live in. Governments trying to put in backdoors that only the good guys can use (HA!). Conglomerates controllibg the internet. WEI. It’s a sad world. I miss the 90s internet :(
I thought that Chromium was a “Degoogled” version of Chrome. Where did that myth come from? I still see it spread online.
it still has a lot of google baked in. If you want true degoogled chromium, use degoogled chromium. But you should use firefox isntead. It’s better for freedom and user rights.
I use Firefox and support Mozilla for the reasons you state. I’m just surprised to hear that Chromium is not degoogled. Comments online - even Kbin - suggest otherwise which is unsettling.
that’s how google wants it. If people think chromium does’nt have any google in it, they’ll use it thinking they’re giving the thumbs down to google
Any idea where the myth comes from? Did Chromium start off “clean” and become contaminated later?
I think google bought chromium, but I’m not 100% sure.
I’ve been mainly using firefox on Windows for ages now, but switched my phone today. I’ll still need them because Japanese is a hard language and I need my Google Translate sometimes, but all other things go through FF now.
Eh? What is about accessing Google Translate via Firefox that you dislike? I’ve been using (sparingly) Google Translate via Librewolf (a fork of Firefox) and I haven’t experienced no problems with it.
Or are you talking about the Google Translate mobile app? I wish there’s a good alternative to it too.
If there’s a way to get google translate (or deepL or something; I’m not picky) in firefox, I don’t know about it. There might be a plug-in or something, but Chrome has it out-of-the-box whereas firefox has no such option.
I use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web and it’s good enough for me. I usually just disable all of it’s translate button except the right click menu ones since I tarely need it but it has options like autotranslating specific websites and more.
There is an alternate frontend to Google Translate though. It’s called Lingva Translate.
https://github.com/TheDavidDelta/lingva-translate
It has also got the voice over thingy.
For androids, Lingva has a FOSS app, called Lentil Translate (I believe it’s not official), which you can easily find on F-Droid. Personally, the translations in the app seem a bit slow and buggy to me, but it works like a charm in the browser.
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How about brave?
It’s chromium and if people are using chromium, websites are going to be more likely to implement WEI. Google dictating web standards is the issue, and any chromium based browser keep that in place.
Message received and understood. I liked Brave cause I can make apps from websites, but I do understand the importance of what is being written here.
