Pretty much the title. I certainly believe Trump, Maga, the Military, and the Police will, sooner or later, probably sooner, get around to at least attempting to deanonymize and round up online antifascists and leftists and imprison them. How organized and effective that attempt is I am less sure of.

To be very transparent, this is something I’m pretty sure I’d be on the hook for. I have a long log of anti trump, antifascist, left sentiments, and am 75% sure I’ll be disappeared at some point in the next 4 years as I have no plans of shutting up. The only reason I’m not 100% sure is because of how expensive it would be. But hey, maybe it’s less expensive than potentially losing power? So I don’t know.

Never? Not likely? Maybe? Very? Extremely? Definitely?

Thoughts?

  • @Atlas_
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    For people organizing protests and taking part in them, Maybe to Likely.

    For people just posting things online, Very unlikely. They’ll have their hands full with all the immigrants and protesters first, and there’s far too many people who have said something leftist online.

  • @[email protected]
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    Not likely. Trump doesn’t even know what those words mean. Temporarily jailing them and protesters is likely a different story, though.

  • @[email protected]
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    you don’t have to be imprisoned to have your life ruined. there are many relatively subtle ways to do that

  • Snot Flickerman
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    Everyone’s like “it won’t happen” but I remember post-9/11 a specific Linux news site got hit with claims of radicalism and some folks who frequented the site got put on watch lists. For interest in Linux.

    There was a reason folks like me were against all the surveillance from the PATRIOT Act back then, and this is why.


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    Similarly, the Bush admin had the FBI spying on Quakers, the only religious group that anti-violence is such a central tenet to their religion that they by default are considered conscientious objectors and cannot be drafted into the military without violating their beliefs.

    Post-9/11 the government thought peaceful Quaker anti-war activists were dangerous.

    That was post-9/11 in the War on Terror years… It can happen here.


    Sources:

    Linuxjournal gets “extra surveillance:”

    https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance

    Quakers being spied on by FBI:

    https://www.wired.com/2009/09/fbi-nsac/

  • @return2ozma
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    Woooo boy! I’ll be right there in the camps with you buddy! Party time!

  • @[email protected]
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    Online? No. Online disorganized leftists aren’t actually leftists, they’re leftist sympathizers. You need to be in a leftist org to actually be a leftist.

    You’re not a threat unless you’re actually doing stuff.

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      And absolutely all of the roadblocks, legal restrictions, grownups pushing back, worry over public sentiment, etc have been eliminated. Expect it to be much, much worse than you thought.

      Any comparison to what has happened in the past is out the window.

  • @[email protected]
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    Personally, I would be worried if I was you. The first Trump term can’t be compared as he had some guardrails with his recommended cabinet picks from the traditional GOP. Now that those GOP members have been expelled from the party, those guardrails are no longer there. His cabinet picks are loyalists and is a stress test to weed out any non-loyalists in Congress.

    His cabinet picks will have free will to do what they want as long as they do two things: 1) praise Trump for the popular things they accomplish and 2) take the fall or blame other groups if it’s not popular.

    And it’s not the government coming after these groups that is most worrying. We all see the lengths regular citizens would go to right a perceived wrong. January 6 case in point.

    We’ve all seen this film before. It doesn’t have a good ending.

    • @ripcord
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      And then realize you hadn’t prepared nearly enough.

  • Cowbee [he/him]
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    Unless you’re doing actual organizing, unlikely. The DNC isn’t friendly towards Leftist orgs either, though MAGA groups themselves may become more millitant.

  • NeoToasty
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    Not likely. This is hyperbole.

    What is most likely going to happen is that any right-wing, MAGA cultist and whatever. They won’t be penalized for any harassment or antagonizing behaviors committed by them to those they don’t like.

    That’s the reality.

  • @[email protected]
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    It all comes to how anonymous you are on the net. I’d say having a mainstream social media account is right now a high risk if you live in the US, specially considering that Kethamine Karen owns one one of them.

    This to say that deanonymizing you might be cheaper than you think, making it more likely than we all expect. If you want to keep using tnose socials, I’d start by deleting my accounts and creating new ones using new data (such as disposable mails or aliases that forward to your real email)

    Of course, a trusted vpn is a must in these cases. And there is a lot you should be doing on top of all this.

    Right now, if you want to keep your anti-trump line, be prepared to be treated as an enemy, so consider the deanonymation a highly likely possibility.

  • Turd Ferg
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    Haha I had to double check to make sure I wasnt on Reddit.

  • @[email protected]
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    I don’t think it’s very likely. Even if it was even remotely affordable or feasible he actually needs opposition to define himself and his base ‘ruggedly independent’ and as ‘freedom fighters’.

    If he’s going to go after anyone at all I think it will be high profile people for maximum media impact.