• @FelixCress
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    110 hours ago

    Yes. And a constitution, with proper separation of powers.

  • @[email protected]
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    1623 hours ago

    Keep the pressure on and maybe we can get this to a second vote before it;s quietly shelved this time!

  • @Jackthelad
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    1524 hours ago

    “symbolic” being the key word.

    This won’t lead to anything.

      • NickwithaC
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        920 hours ago

        It was…

        Then it wasn’t.

        • @Jackthelad
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          -218 hours ago

          But what would be the point of having a referendum, getting the results and then just saying “oh right, that’s interesting” and doing nothing?

          • @[email protected]
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            611 hours ago

            What would be the point of having a referendum and deciding that 51% was enough to burn it all without a plan?

            • @Jackthelad
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              -17 hours ago

              The stupidity of politicians is not a reason to ignore what people vote for.

          • @FelixCress
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            110 hours ago

            Let me think… Possibly because it was based on lies, manipulation and the significant part of the UK residents were disenfranchised?

            • @Jackthelad
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              -47 hours ago

              Who was disenfranchised? It was the biggest democratic vote in the UK’s history, if I recall correctly.

              • @FelixCress
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                17 hours ago

                Just three million of EU citizens in the UK and hundreds of thousands of UK citizens in the EU.

                • @Jackthelad
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                  -14 hours ago

                  They can’t vote in general elections either.

  • @[email protected]
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    923 hours ago

    All of the Conservatives who voted, 78 of them, opposed the idea

    I’m mildly surprised by that, since FPTP actively hurt them at the last election.

    • @Ross_audio
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      920 hours ago

      It might have lost the party the election

      But the rich party donors don’t actually mind their party losing as long as they also control the second party well enough to avoid regulations, taxes, or any modicum of responsibility towards society.

      FPTP isn’t about which party wins, it’s about reducing the power of the electorate far enough that change only happens with the content of the rich.

    • @[email protected]
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      620 hours ago

      It’s only temporary. Once they’ve bribed farage sufficiently he’ll disband the reform party and the tories will return to dominating elections through the corruption of FPTP. The absurd thing is Labour refuse to accept this and will blunder on refusing to accept we need a proportional electoral system

      • @Jackthelad
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        418 hours ago

        Labour have just won a 174 seat majority on 34% of the vote with FPTP.

        There would be no benefit to them in changing the system.

        • @[email protected]
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          18 hours ago

          In my opinion labour’s victory was due to the utter incompetence of the conservatives and unexpected success of the reform party. I don’t believe these circumstances will be repeated so labour will get demolished as usual in the next election. The same applies to the lib dems getting 70 seats under FPTP. It won’t be repeated so they must work together to repair the damn system

        • @FelixCress
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          110 hours ago

          Oh, there is. There is no guarantee this will be repeated.

    • @[email protected]
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      320 hours ago

      Yeah but they’d get fucked with PR.

      Labour less so but they would still prefer FPTP over PR for party reasons. And without one or both of these large groups nothing will change. 😞