• @Reddfugee42
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    462 days ago

    Second cousins hardly matters. Even 1st cousins only increase the chance of anomaly by 3%. 2nd cousins is background noise. If you make each other happy, go for it and let anyone who complains enjoy their divorces.

  • @[email protected]
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    212 days ago

    I used to work with this absolute idiot when I was a kid. He was married to his cousin. But apparently he was such a gross dude, that it was too much for her, so she left him. For his brother. She ended up having a couple kids, one with each brother.

    Talk about going out of your way to keep it in the family. Their family tree was tied in a knot.

  • @HollowNaught
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    A lot of people here are saying that the more genetically similar you are to somebody, the more attractive they are (so long as you don’t grow up with them). I’m here to tell you that those guys are completely wrong

    Studies have shown that (in other animals unfortunately, not in humans) that the more genetically dissimilar two individuals are, the more attracted they are, so long as they can produce viable offspring (aka they can have kids)

    This study would also be done on humans, but that would be slightly morally questionable

    This is an evolutionary trait in order to incentivise us to increase the gene pool when possible. You can imagine what would happen if we only rucked our cousins (look at the royals)

    Source: am biomed student

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      Oh man we did the Hapsburgs in my genetics class and it’s so fucking gross how closely related those incestuous fucks were. First cousins as closely related on a genetic level as siblings.

      Edit: LOOK AT THIS UGLY FUCKER! Even better - these genetic monstrosities still have money.

      • @captainlezbian
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        I’m not comfortable condemning them for their crippling genetic disabilities (except where they perpetuate it), but they did do the majority of leading countries involved in WWI. And not only do these fucks still have money, they fund modern fascist movements and hateful propaganda as well as still being politically influential. The head of the family is an ambassador for the country his family took from superpower to “I could’ve sworn you were the kangaroo country”

    • @captainlezbian
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      Yeah you often strive for maximum compatible difference. There’s no instinct to create a family ladder

    • @[email protected]
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      Second cousin means cousin second order (grandchild of a sibling of one of your grandparents), right?

      • Robust Mirror
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        Another way I like to think of it is it’s your parent’s cousin’s kid. So you can see why from their perspective it would feel more closely related, it would be like you having a kid and your cousin having a kid and then you seeing them together.

        • @captainlezbian
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          Yeah, genetically don’t make a habit of it, but you’re probably fine (unless your grandparents are identical twins or has hapsburgs or something), but also I’d be super uncomfortable if it was my kid

      • @[email protected]
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        A parent’s first cousin. Your first cousin’s child would be a first cousin once removed.

        • Robust Mirror
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          What really confuses me is your second cousins parent is also called your first cousin once removed.

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              No, your great aunt/uncle is your second cousin’s grandparent.

              Second cousin is your parent’s cousin’s child.

              Your parent’s cousin’s parent is your parent’s aunt/uncle, which is your great aunt/uncle.

              You’re parent’s cousin is your first cousin once removed.

  • nifty
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    Eh second cousin marriage isn’t a big deal in some cultures

  • Bob
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    That happened to a few of my cousins years ago. We were at a family function so I thought they would’ve put two and two together, but alas.

    • Victor
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      202 days ago

      A few? Not just two??

      • Bob
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        112 days ago

        I saw that after pressing send and thought to myself, ah, no one’ll pull me up on that.

        • @captainlezbian
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          92 days ago

          It’s ok I wouldn’t want to admit it if my family reunion turned into an orgy either

      • @Stamau123
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        52 days ago

        They just got a good vibe, you know?

        • Boxscape
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          11 day ago

          They just got a good vibe, you know?

          Like one of those Rose Toys? 😏

        • Victor
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          52 days ago

          Sounds like it, cuz.

  • Rayquetzalcoatl
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    663 days ago

    Second cousins is kissing cousins, have at it!

  • @[email protected]
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    Isn’t there some sort of biological thing where you’re more likely to be sexually attracted to your relatives if you don’t know they’re you’re relatives

    • @olosta
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      Second degree cousins is not that close though. If every generation has three children, that’s 27 persons. I thinks that for most of human history excluding second degree cousins from the acceptable partners pool would have been impossible. Communities were not that big.

      • snooggums
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        143 days ago

        Second degree cousins

        I can’t stop laughing.

      • @HonoraryMancunian
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        63 days ago

        And if my maths is correct, you only share on average 12.5% of your DNA with them

        • @mEEGal
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          273 days ago

          your math may be wrong, because we have very similar genomes, even compared to complete strangers. hell, even between some species.

          • @HonoraryMancunian
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            213 days ago

            Well, yes. I meant in the sense we share on average 50% with each parent/siblings, 25% with grandparents, etc. I should have said genetics instead of DNA.

      • @[email protected]
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        Groups often came together to party and marry people.

        There are even rules, like exogamy is common.

    • Kalcifer
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      All I could find on this is something called “genetic sexual attraction” [1], though Wikipedia contains arguments that it’s pseudoscience [1.1]. Here’s a Reddit post asking about this. [3].

      Related to this, I also came across the “Westermarck effect” [2] which appears to suggest that people who grow up together are less likely to be romantically attracted to each other [2.1].

      References
      1. “Genetic sexual attraction”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-10-14T18:46Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T07:29Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction.
        1. §“Criticism”

          Critics of the hypothesis have called it pseudoscience. In a Salon piece, Amanda Marcotte called the concept “half-baked pseudoscientific nonsense that people dreamed up to justify continuing unhealthy, abusive relationships”.[8] The use of “GSA” as an initialism has also been criticized, since it gives the notion that the phenomenon is an actual diagnosable “condition”.

          Many have noted the lack of research on the subject. While acknowledging the “phenomenon of genetic sexual attraction”, Eric Anderson, a sociologist and sexologist, noted in a 2012 book that “[t]here is only one academic research article” on the subject, and he critiqued the paper for using “Freudian psycho-babble”.

      2. “Westermarck effect”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-09-26T14:09Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T07:33Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect.
        1. The Westermarck effect […] is a psychological hypothesis that states that people tend not to be attracted to peers with whom they lived like siblings before the age of six.

      3. "How does nature prevent us from feeling sexually attracted to relatives who are objectively sexually attractive? ". Author: “Morgentau7” (u/Morgentau7). “r/TooAfraidToAsk”. Reddit. Published: 2024-09-25T17:50:08.227Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T07:34Z. https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/1fpaold/how_does_nature_prevent_us_from_feeling_sexually/.
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      Yeah, that’s weird: genetically similiar people are more attractive (as long as it isn’t too similiar)(people in stable relationships often look alike) but bigger genetical difference is better.