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How bad was his stroke?
He was never a democrat, people just love a scammer. He his that, passed a lot of money through his organization.
At the height of the presidential election campaign, I got down voted for pointing out at Fetterman and Tulsi Gabbard as examples that there are Democrats who flip, because they rail on “vote blue no matter who”. After Trump won his second term, I don’t see those die-hard types anymore. They finally admit that the Democratic party is compromised through and through, and that only a progressive takeover of the party will solve the problems that arose.
The problem is people are trying to beat republicans by being just like them. Republicans stand or kill their own. That created Trump, dems want to do the samething. Normal people need to start running again and need support.
The days of trying to court both sides and moderates have long gone past. It now requires more radical changes. If Democrats indeed want to win again, they have to go further left. The Republicans have rightly deduced that people want drastic change so they are unafraid to go further right (probably also because of influence from the Tea Party movement). Democrats need to go more populist like the Republicans have.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what grievance politics leads to. Cenk*, Anna, Fetterman, Dore, etc, when you think of criticism as competition to get to the top, or you think of one person’s success as a lack of your own, the only path is towards right wing grift.
Jenk, as in Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks turned to the right?
Sorry, Cenk, not Jenk. The point isn’t that all of these people have become right wingers only that once grievance politics begins, that’s where it ends if there is no reconciliation. Anna and Cenk both double down and treat other members of the left as competition rather than allies. This will drive them from the movement sooner or later.
When your calculus about why people are critiquing something you say is that they want to lower your status so that they can replace you, you’ve got a very different reaction, and one that will not involve actual engagement with the criticism. If you look at it from that point of view, their takes start to make more sense.
Oh I get you. I don’t really watch TYT before, but the last time I saw them they are quite militant. It put me off from further watching the show.
I know where you’re coming from overall. Not everyone of course, but a lot on the left are similarly militant. Frankly, a lot of their ideas, arguments and their messaging approach is very low bar. They consume information sources that are “fast food”, shall we say. Both the left and liberals are rightly criticised for being smug, which turns off people or even shies many away from the broader movement. The militant left and liberals are kind of in their bubble and I realised that after interacting with “vote blue no matter who” Democrats and after Trump won. They refuse to acknowledge the root cause of rise of Trumpism as being economic. Instead, they quickly malign Latino, Muslim, black and white working class folks who voted for Trump as dumb, racist, etc. They forget that white working class used to vote Democrats…
Yes
What did he do?
He named his media organization after a bunch of genocidaires for one.
I wouldn’t be upset if he had another stroke at this point.
Its funny how brain injury tends to turn people right.
Maybe it will fix whatever got broke the first time
His noggin seems to be fully healed after his stroke: he’s now a fully-functional politician once again, with perfectly working lying, backstabbing, flip-flopping and sycophantic brain functions.
Wish we all had access to this level of healthcare so we could all go back to performing our job to the fullest of our abilities like he does.
Fucking Class traitor. Coyote in sheep’s clothing.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-black-jogger-2013-shotgun-20220425.html
In 2013, Fetterman pursued a man and pulled a shotgun on him because he wrongly believed the man, who turned out to be a Black jogger, had been involved in a shooting.
This is who he’s always been, but liberals were blinded by the D in front of his name and chose to ignore the shit he did before getting elected.
He just can’t stop being fuckwit. He’s just another Manchin and just needs to become a Republican and GTFO.
He ran around calling himself progressive and talking about all the progressive stuff the country needs…
But all it took was a stroke and a little brain damage for him to go full maga, now he honestly and repeatedly says he doesn’t understand why people ever thought he was progressive.
I think the brain damage made him forget that he was willfully lying about being progressive.
Still better than Oz would have been.
Sure but that’s like saying “at least it’s not pancreatic cancer” when you have a brain tumor.
at least it’s not pancreatic cancer
I almost wonder if things would have been better if Oz did get elected. Like when Massachusetts elected Scott Brown but then replaced him with Elizabeth Warren.
That’s a fair point!
At least now he seems to be being honest and telling us the kind of shitty person he really is
I think this is a lesson for those of us who support economic populism: even though many, if not most Americans agree on many economic issues, we don’t agree on everything. I don’t know that we can say we have a majority consensus movement. I think there is a movement that has a plurality, and that’s the Trump movement. As much as many of us might find that pretty disheartening, I think it is nonetheless true. Of the two main populist movements in the US, the progressive populist movement is simply not as large as the right-wing, Trump populist movement. I don’t know if people like Fetterman are just more aligned with the Trump movement ideologically, or if they’re moving to the larger populist movement for strategic reasons.
He doesn’t cycle till 2028, so this isn’t tactical, it’s strategic. Maybe Fetterman looks toward national office? Anyway, I hope he’s making a mistake, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
This is what happens when liberals VBNMW and ignore the shot they did in their past.
Does anybody know the political leanings of his healthcare team after that stroke? Did they influence his fractured mind as it was healing? I wonder if ‘stroke’ is the new doublespeak word for reconditioning at a CIA black site.
spoiler
/jokes for the too-serious minded.
