• @daggermoon
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    128 hours ago

    Unless they make Ecosia the default search engine in Firefox, this is worthless.

  • Avid Amoeba
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    1510 hours ago

    Ecosia sounds like a company worth supporting. I wish they’d offer a paid, ad-free plan.

    How does it compare to Kagi, anyone used both?

    • @[email protected]
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      35 hours ago

      Kagi seems like a circus. Search quality? It’s interesting. Worth supporting? Up to you, but know that your money will still go to actual search result providers first, and what’s left goes to people who care more about shirts than privacy.

      • Avid Amoeba
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        Quality is pretty good though. Have been using it for about a year. I’d like to find a non-profit search and pay for that instead though. Ecosia comes close in some regards but I don’t see an ad-free option.

    • @ikidd
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      15 hours ago

      Maybe they’ll spend it all on Tshirts, worked for Kagi.

      • Midnight Wolf
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        25 hours ago

        I like my Kagi t-shirt, except the sizes are deceptive. I’m a chubby fuck but I fit comfortably in a US XL tee. I ordered an XL for Kagi. This shit is like a size smaller; “form fitting” if you will. I wasn’t planning on showcasing my moobs but I guess we are doing that now.

        I like the search engine though. Been using it for a bit over a year. No real complaints; maybe a bit expensive, I guess.

    • @[email protected]
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      37 hours ago

      Haven’t used kagi, but ecosia is another bing fronted.

      It’s duckduckgo, but the profits from the ads are used to plant trees.

      If you need/want something like kagi, only kagi exists at the moment. There is nothing comparable in quality and features

      If you still want to throw some money at them, they have a store where you can buy some merch and plant a tree

  • @[email protected]
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    08 hours ago

    Here’s a suggestion that would show they care about their users and making the web a better place:

    Give users the option to download firefox with adblockers pre-installed. Literally put them right next to the “normal” browser download and see which gets more hits.

    • katy ✨
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      because adblockers often lead to websites not working which would lead to non techie people complaining about firefox.

      • @[email protected]
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        Not really.

        Replace “often” with “exceedingly rarely” and you’d be more accurate, but then you can just be describing websites that don’t work properly in general.

  • @MisterMoo
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    4022 hours ago

    “OMG this is crazy but in light of the looming Google antitrust stuff did y’all realize there are other browsers out there??”

      • @[email protected]
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        89 hours ago

        Ya there’s only 2 types of browsers :( chromium and Firefox based. There’s a total monopoly on that

        • @[email protected]
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          Well, Safari (Webkit) too but nobody likes that one.

          Btw, Google’s Blink is based on Webkit which is based on KDE’s KHTML. Else, there is Gecko (Firefox) and was Trident (MS Internet Explorer). Oh, and QtWebkit but it’s slow in JS.

            • @theherk
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              46 hours ago

              There are several browsers, but the hard part being discussed here is the browser engine. The current promising up and comers are LibWeb for Ladybird and Servo which is now under management of the Linux Foundation; super exciting.

              But as far as just browsers, I recommend the Firefox fork, zen browser. The interface is fantastic.

  • @neuroneiro
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    2122 hours ago

    Please tell me I overlooked in the press release the link to what they are talking about.

    • ZephyrXero
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      3622 hours ago

      It sounds like Firefox will have a new default search engine soon

  • @[email protected]
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    424 hours ago

    Of all the things I care about in a search engine, “social impact” has got to be near the bottom.

    That they’re touting this as the selling point tells me they’re trying to distract from the real motive.

    • @[email protected]
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      1617 hours ago

      This selling point is not important to you because you’re not part of Mozilla’s target market. Mozilla already has the 2% of the internet that hangs out on Lemmy. They’re pursuing some of the remaining 98%.

    • @TheGrandNagus
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      Ecosia goes beyond [just] data protection by addressing environmental concerns. Every search made through the search engine contributes to tree-planting projects worldwide, helping to combat deforestation and regenerate the planet. Ecosia planted over 215 million trees, across the planet biodiversity hotspots, making a tangible difference in the fight against climate change. Just like Mozilla, they are committed to creating a better internet, and world, for everyone.

      I don’t really see the big deal. And while it may be bottom of the list for you, I’m sure others might like the tree-planting thing. From what I can gather with a quick search, they actually do it properly, too, not just planting an ecologically dead monoculture of trees.

      And yeah there’s an “ulterior motive”, although it’s not really the evil scheming you’re making it sound like. Ecosia paid Mozilla to include them, so now Mozilla has included them as a search option. It’s one of the few ways Mozilla can get revenue, because people sure won’t pay for a browser these days.

    • @TheGrandNagus
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      They stopped running their own instance that almost nobody used. It’s not the big deal you’re making it out to be. They’re still on the fediverse, they just won’t be maintaining their own instance.

      I don’t even see why you think the two things are related.

      • @[email protected]
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        417 hours ago

        Not necessarily complaining about mozilla’s actions here, but did anyone actually get an opportunity to use their instance ? I thought I signed up to get an invite when they opened publicly but it never happened.

    • @[email protected]
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      1417 hours ago

      Lots of people have been saying they should focus more on developing Firefox rather than doing other things like partnering with Mullvad or whatever. There are already quite a few other fediverse instances.