Jesus Christ, how old is that Pi?
I appreciate the usage of the pi 1 and not one of the newer versions.
Maybe I’m just old but old pi was special
Pi 1 was an amazing idea, I ordered one as a sonon as they were available and then never used it for anything. I’ve bought way to many pis since then.
Could’ve got me there quicker by telling me the truth
I better be getting pegged at the end of the night if she makes me suffer by writing C++.
That’s not socks that’s a gun
My type of stay-at-home wife works on OSS projects all day
All Linux enthusiasts are attractive women.
I’ll settle for girlish and overknees
Even if they are men?
Especially if they are men
please don’t make me read another bjarne book. the last time i read one it made me want to stop programming
Put the gun away and throw that cpp book in the bin, fool. I brought The Linux Kernel Programming Guide, which is in C, and my own socks, which are wool. Now let’s gets crackin.
Bonus points for some Rust device drivers.
Never touched rust, so I don’t understand the hype. I’m not arguing against it, mind you, but I’m gathering, more and more, that it’s worth a look. Maybe I’ll look into it after work.
I already use linux. My feet have been getting cold lately. it never occurred to me to get wool socks. Is this how it starts? Are skirts next?
Unless you use goat wool socks. Then you can go for a old school hippie build. Sandals, long hair, tie dye shirt and go from there.
Am I going too hard by making shortcuts to start and stop SSH on my steamdeck desktop for easier file transfer? Feels like a basic security step when connecting to other networks, while not wanting to remember the commands to enable, also wanting to avoid keeping the perms permanently open for the sake of unknown backdoors. Even added windows stating if it was started or stopped in the case of extra sauce or herb.
Ayy girl, we’re going over and beyond with your network security, because we all do a fucky wucky from time to time.
Nothing says “I love you” quite like a surprise LFS install.
When you find out your partner is into BDSM…
Girl, I will wear whatever socks you want, but… pulls out my own gun. We’re reading this damn book instead.
Don’t kink shame her
Why no K&R?
/s
Lol. I prefer the New Testament.
how does it compare to k&r (2nd ed.)?
Honestly, I prefer King’s book to any other for intro to C programming. K&R is a classic, and is really quite good for diving into some cool tricks (i.e. postfix operation wizardy).
But as a beginner, I can just say that King’s book is much more digestible. The author holds your hand a lot more and assumes you only have a basic knowledge of programming and the UNIX command line.
That said, the exercises and simple projects do push you to demonstrate what you learned in each chapter as well as enforcing other Computer Science fundamentals like basic data structures (stacks, queues, linked lists) through demonstrations in the C language.
My plan is to revisit K&R after a few other books in C like Advanced Programming In The Unix Environment, Unix Network Programming, and The Linux Programming Interface. All while referencing Beej’s Resources.
I feel like by then I’ll hopefully have a more solid grasp on C and can then more aptly appreciate The K&R Book.
The cool kids are forcing people to read this at gunpoint nowadays
Right? It’s in the kernel and everything now. Linus likes it. Linus hates everything. HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING HIM?
Big Rust has gotten to Linus
Not the L man!
Did he actually say that he likes it? My impression was that it’s not his comfort zone, but he recognizes that for the vast majority of young programmers, C is not their comfort zone. And so, if they don’t hop on this Rust train, the Linux kernel is going to look like a COBOL project in a not too distant future. It does not happen very often that a programming language capable of implementing kernels gains wide-spread adoption.
One (1) good programming language is what they paid him XD
I’ll never touch Rust.
I hate the syntax and cargo too much for that. If that means that I’ll never write mission critical, low level code, so be it.
What don’t you like about Cargo? Is there another package manager you like more?
Well - I of course prefer a centralized package manager like pacman, which I also use for python packages etc., but I mainly dislike the building process of rust, which is usually done with cargo. No libraries, not even a global cache for already compiled dependencies, no distcc. This makes it infinitely slower than most C/C++ projects. Compiling the kernel is literally faster than compiling a “simple” project like spotify_cli (500+ dependencies, depending on configuration).
So it’s ass from a user perspective, waiting for stuff to compile (just for it to fail, and start from scratch, as some stuff needs a clean build/src dir), and imo very weird from a dev perspective.
I like Go better
However, C is still king in a lot of ways
C is definitely still king, but I wonder if crABI will eventually be able to dethrone it:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/111423
If they can define a useful ABI that manages to include lifetimes, that might just be enough of an improvement to get people to switch over from assuming the C ABI everywhere.
The problem is that both Rust and Go are huge. The compiled binaries are bigger and the compilers themselves and slower and more resource intensive. The current benefit to C is that is lean and compiles quickly.
Why is there Gleam and Deno on the cover?
I know you’re joking, but uh, both of those are (largely) implemented in Rust…
Linux is C only, ever read the rant by Linus last century about C++ ? I was there, in usenet
He’s having the same rant every couple of years. It’s always funny.
They’re about allow bits of rust though
Have they tried applying a bit of protective oil coating?
Heresy!
Wait, you are telling people had discussion in Usenet? No way!
it was mostly flame wars, alt.bin.pictures.erotica, warez, discussion about The Simpson, and of course The Oracle, and Kibo.
EDIT for young people, the usenet oracle and kibology
C++? Shoot me
the author of C++ said that C gives you many opportunities to shoot yourself in the leg. You have a much less chance for this to happen with C++, but when it does, you will blow your whole lower body off
Yeah C++ is a bazooka, C is like the death of 1000 paper cuts.
The paper cuts are all poisonous and kills you anyway.
C++ is a bazooka that only fires when it’s pointed at your feet
I haven’t used either, but compiled a lot of C source code and they compiled or could be adjusted easier even for someone who barely knows what printf, fopen, or #include are
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The thing with C is that you probaby won’t know you messed it up. It happens silently as memory gets corrupted.
Modern compilers are much more advanced but you still can overwrite stuff in memory with other stuff
Wat? Don’t you dare talk that way about my favorite multiple personality disorder clusterfuck of a language.
C is the only language, all the rest are mental disorders (/j 😉)
Edit: maybe rust, but it’s on thin ice XD
As someone that has programmed professionally a good chunk in C for embedded systems (basically it’s home turf), fuck C.
I still.like fortran better. (And I am not even lying.)
