• @[email protected]
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    14 hours ago

    there’s something hauntingly poetic about the ebb and flows of human compassion coming together to form language that allows the marginalized to express their need for emancipation, only for the inevitable surge of encultured ableism to quell that spark and steal that language for its own purpose. over and over and over. what will break the cycle? will people with disabilities ever get to have a concrete hold on the words they use to describe themselves, or is this a permanent fixture in the world we are forcing onto the disabled?

  • EchoCranium
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    1410 hours ago

    gum ball machine Saw this at a consignment shop a couple months ago, from about that same time period.

  • @[email protected]
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    Give it a few more years and then “mentally disabled” will be the new retarded. We’ll cringe at how people would say they’re “disabled”.

    I work with the mentally disabled and have for a while now. I love my guys but it’s so annoying seeing how new terms will come and go throughout the years constantly.

    • @[email protected]
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      The Euphemism Treadmill might stop when the term is so clinically dry as “mentally disabled”. It doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue of a schoolyard bully the way “retarded” does. I dunno, we’ll see.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m pretty sure that “mentally retarded” was the medical term for many decades, before it became cultural lingo. There was something similar for erectile dysfunction too, they used to call you impotent, not exactly a great thing to hear at the doctor’s office.

    • @[email protected]
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      Culture evolves. I will say, some of the new terms drive me nuts because they technically mean the same thing, but are grammatically awkward or are otherwise clunky when conveying the same message.

      Like sure, I technically have a disability, please don’t try to frame it as a good thing or something to make it sound better. It just sounds condescending. I don’t need pity, I’m living my life to the fullest now :P

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      I mean, they are disabled! This whole “differently abled” is completely out of touch with reality.

  • @psycho_driver
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    I mean thing swinging lifestyle is one thing but that might be a bridge too far.

  • @LovableSidekick
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    Fun fact: word usage changes over time. For example, “idiot” used to be a technical medical term for extreme mental disability. We live in the Age of Information, and if somebody doesn’t want to learn about historical context that’s actually willful ignorance on their part.

  • @2pt_perversion
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    Ah the Euphemism Treadmill. Live long enough and words we use today for intellectual disability will become inappropriate too.

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      I only really mind when it’s done by normies like myself about a minority group that we aren’t a part of. Like taking offense on behalf of someone else.

      If a group wants to mix up their own terms just because, I’m 100 percent behind them.

  • magnetosphere
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    As I get older, I have more and more sympathy for people who can’t keep up with socially acceptable terminology. At the same time, I have less and less tolerance for people who deliberately use outdated, insulting language.

  • @[email protected]
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    1613 hours ago

    Whenever medical science came up with a term to describe people with cognitive or intellectual impairments, it eventually became used as a derogatory insult. The R word was going out for a long time before Rosa’s Law put the mail in the coffin.

    • @Takumidesh
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      Why is retarded considered so offensive that people self censor but idiot isn’t? Is it just that retarded reached its peak in the internet era of policing speech or is there something special about the word that makes it much more offensive than idiot or imbecile?

      They both have the same meanings, intentions, and ability to be used as an insult.

      • @[email protected]
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        A) Time changes culture and language. I have no way to measure, but “idiot” could certainly have been on par with “retard” in its time.

        B) The coopting of “retard” came at a time with a more mature disability rights movement. With the ADA passed in 1990, disabled individuals had a much greater capacity to speak out against the theft of their language than was possible in previous iterations of this pattern. You mention this a bit with your “peak internet era” comment, though a more charitable reading of that sentence might be that internet is allowing disabled people to get together and voice their experiences of being harrassed and abused in conjunction with the word, really speaking out for themselves rather than taking it lying down.

    • @[email protected]
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      Under Rosa’s law, these would be described respectively as profound, severe, and moderate levels of intellectual disability.

      Unfortunately, I don’t see the cycle breaking anytime soon. We got idiot and moron from the same medical textbooks as “retarded”.

      Gen B squeakers will start calling people “profoundly/severely disabled” in COD 2k35 and the cycle will be born anew.

    • @Hikermick
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      The movie Tropic Thunder is what pushed it over the edge

  • HubertManne
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    I am so glad you posted this. Sometimes I get into little arguments about word usage and younger folk truly don’t understand how not only commonplace word usage that is considered some sort of insult now but how officially they were used. Near me was a place that helped folks with all sorts of independent living including housing and job training and just counseling and it was called the NSAR and Im almost sure the R was retardation. Think it changed its name and I can’t find anything on it now but I did find like this https://mn.gov/mnddc/parallels2/pdf/70s/70/70s-WWH-NARC.pdf

    • The Picard ManeuverOP
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      It’s hard to fully explain how the reception of words change to people who haven’t seen it first-hand.

      Even some bad words, which might be incredibly rude to say today, didn’t have the same oomph in the past, so while the definition technically might not have changed, the intended severity of it has.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        And then some things suddenly become okay. You definitely didn’t hear people casually talking about “eating ass” in the era of retards.

      • HubertManne
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        yeah and part of it is they were used as insults but it was more co-opting than anything else. retarded is pretty legit as saying someone is retarded can be proper, but someone will call someone retarded who is not as an insult. then shortening is almost never correct. You might say someone is retarded and that is a correct thing about their condition but saying their a retard is not as its sorta a made up word based on the condition and further tard or tarded is a way to make it more derogatory. Its like homosexual. its a word that means something without being derogatory but to someone who thinks being a homosexual is bad will use it as an insult and using the word homo is almost always an insult (the rare exception is usage among friends to sorta deflate its meaning). When it comes down to it is that folks who spent decades with a word being legitamate will have trouble when it becomes a taboo thing for a decade or so.

        • bizarroland
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          I have a special needs uncle and my whole life I grew up with him being called “retarded” and it not being a slur.

          It was just a way to describe his mental functioning.

          To me it doesn’t have the same impact because I had never heard it used pejoratively until after it was a no-no word.

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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          You didn’t call retarded people retards, you called your friends retards when they were acting retarded.

          • HubertManne
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            yes. as I said that really had no use but as a insult but the word it came out of was legitimate.

    • @[email protected]
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      Disney’s Recess was censored to remove the term midget

      Apparently now little person/lesser human is the preferred term

      • HubertManne
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        I find it hard to believe lesser human would be used as a term. Its a bit funny because again midget was also used as opposed to dwarf by the relative proportionality even though dwarfism was appropriate for both types. Was it being used to describe someone in the show with dwarfism though because if not then it was sorta being used derogatorily.

        • @[email protected]
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          In the first episode the line

          the midget girl is right

          Was use towards the short girl of the main cast when she stood up to authority

    • lime!
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      can you really call it a euphemism when it just used to be a medical term back then?

      • Ogmios
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        Pro tip: It still is a medical term. Internet activists deciding they don’t like a word doesn’t actually change the word.

        • @[email protected]
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          It’s not only the ‘SJW’ crowd who are asking people to stop using it, but also the medical field, patients, and their caregivers directly asking everyone to stop.

          The results of both the parent and professional surveys support a move away from the use of the term mental retardation. The majority of parents indicated that they would be upset if a physician used the term mental retardation.

          • @[email protected]
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            Right, the euphemism treadmill works on medical terminology same as common speech. The medical terms used to be ‘moron’, ‘idiot’, and ‘cripple’.

            Goes medical term-> common language -> insult -> forbidden

            • @[email protected]
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              I mean it’s not like the crown will cut your tongue out for saying the word. You can still say it, and people decide if it is taboo or not, and dis/approve accordingly.

              But much like we don’t use “negroe” despite that having been the word in common use, we’ve recognized the pain it causes that group because of the way language gets weaponized to ‘other’ people.

        • lime!
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          that’s not how that works. “idiot”, “lunatic” and “hysterical” were once medical terms. they are no longer used as such.

  • @PwnTra1n
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    I don’t think you should swing for the committee member with a golf club no matter what you think about them