• @Nutteman
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      Copyright sucks. Brought to you by copyleft gang

      • @[email protected]
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        Uh, copyleft still depends on copyright. All it means is that licenses are free so long as the terms are followed, but it still relies on licensing. The actual opposite(s) of copyright is open-source and/or public domain.

    • @[email protected]
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      -464 days ago

      Copyright infringement in China is awesome! It allows one to buy things at a fraction of the cost because of such competition. A lot of western brands’ factories sell the product locally unbranded for 1/10 of the price and it’s awesome

      • @SkunkWorkz
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        153 days ago

        Copyright infringement also means small creators get their lunch money stolen by big Chinese corporations. Copyright doesn’t just protect corpos.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah the individuals deserve to be protected but I have no care for corpos losing to other corpos

      • @Kbobabob
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        104 days ago

        How does the local economy fair against Western countries? Is it on par?

        • ZeroOne
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          It’s actually better, NGL

          • @[email protected]
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            134 days ago

            Sure, at the cost of the people doing the work to design the product not being compensated for their labor.

            • @Electricblush
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              Yes, because that is where all the profit goes in Western companies, and not the CEO, upper management and stockholders…

              You are not wrong in assuming that exploited labor is being under compensated, but different models of labor exploitation aside, people actually making value are not the people reaping the benefits.

              • @[email protected]
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                Ok but it’s not done by a bunch of Robin Hoods, they rip off (read: steal and then destroy the economic capacity of) small/independent designers all the time too.

                • @Electricblush
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                  Oh absolutely, I was mainly targeting the notion that the way “legit” companies distribute the profits is somehow more fair.

                  If anything these markets show what the actual cost of production is, so it shows how much profit could have been distributed to those actually producing the goods. (Including designers, factory workers etc)

                  A lot more people could have sustainable incomes instead of CEOs getting their third yacht…

              • @[email protected]
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                84 days ago

                That’s true, I would prefer the people doing the most work get the most reward. But currently they’re getting none, so I would settle for some.

            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              33 days ago

              The ones designing the vast majority of IP are paid in wages, the ones who own the IP have not actually designed it, or played a minimal role, ie outlining what they want designed. Copyright is something that is truly unnecessary in general, it is at its best when protecting the vast minority of small producers who own their own designs and can actually afford to manufacture and sell them, but the bulk of the economy is not at all organized in such a fashion to begin with.

        • @[email protected]
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          03 days ago

          You’re claiming that Chinese people cannot design anything new because they built a replica city? Way to admit you know nothing about anything China does and show your ignorant racism.

    • @[email protected]
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      223 days ago

      The phrase “one user wrote” is often used to introduce a quote. One user wrote this, one wrote that, and another wrote that. Yeah, the generalisation from a single forum thread / few social media posts to “the whole of internet is crazy about this!” is crap, but media sensationalism has always been there. Media (and especially media about pop culture) has always been shit.

    • @[email protected]
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      73 days ago

      I mean, when you have a few thousand two-bit internet media sites surviving off advertisement spam and hiring any freelance writer that can put together three paragraphs for $5 that’s what our media becomes.

  • SharkAttak
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    I may be wrong but Wukong itself looks a Souls knock-off, so I don’t see the problem.

    • @Electricblush
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      I think the cultural theme of the game is more reason for the “anger” than the gameplay formula.

      Its based on the most famous Chinese mythological story / fairytale about the Monkey King Wukong.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_King

      I have not deep dived into it, but I think it’s a treasured and well known story in China, and I assume a lot of Chinese people are proud of their mythology being a successful story outside of China as well.

      • @MeaanBeaan
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        Also it’s what Dragon Ball is based on and it’s a primary influence for most if not all Shonen anime.

        Its like getting upset when two different projects are made based on the Greek Pantheon.

          • @Electricblush
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            Look, it’s a funny and ironic turn of events and my comment mainly tried to expand upon why this evokes this emotional response from some people.

            Also, I don’t think most Americans identify with the shady practices of corporations either, so equating a undoubtedly shady history on copyright with the stance of all Chinese people everywhere is a bit… 🤔

            As others have mentioned it’s also not accidental that the outrage is at the Nintendo store specifically. There is a lot of bad blood between the Chinese and the Japanese.

            • SharkAttak
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              Chill, where did you get that I was ‘equating the stance of al chinese people’? Even the title mentions ‘China internet’… it’s like saying “France is in uproar at latest Macron speech”. I know it’s funny and ironic, that’s why I pointed out that they’re upset at the alleged copying of an non-original game concept about a myth that’s been already featured in a ton of other works.

              • @Electricblush
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                115 hours ago

                I am chill. :) No need for either of us to read spite into the others comments. Text is bad at communicating tone :)

                I guess my comment was meant more in general, not at you specifically (though I understand it being in a reply of course feels that way)

                I am sorry my comment came of as hostile or combative

      • Aatube
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        “Folktale” is a better description but I agree

      • @MadBigote
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        33 days ago

        Just like Dragon Ball is based on that myth, no?

      • Cethin
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        153 days ago

        The first-person shooter genre used to be called Doom Clones because they were all viewed as rip offs of Doom (which, to be fair, many were). Genre conventions are created by copying what others have done. Souls is a game series, which has been so influential that it became a genre.

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        that’s the funny thing about genres and knock-offs, the only difference is scale. every game after pong is a knock-off of something that came before, and the great ones are the ones who purposefully or inadvertedly added something that made it a new standard for which to knock off, birthing a new genre. people hate terms like metroidvania or roguelike but imo those are the best genre names because they most clearly communicate the context and intent of the game

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    303 days ago

    Imagine that! Popular game makes a ton of money and scam companies make shameless ripoffs to try and cash in on it? Never happened before and never will! /s

  • M.int
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    113 days ago

    This reminds me of Breath of the Wild’s fans being upset about Genshin Impact.
    Of all the reasons to be upset about this gambling game…

    (I’m upset that Genshin completed to Impact on my keyboard just now…
    I don’t play or have ever even downloaded the game.)

  • @Daveyborn
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    204 days ago

    Does a company own the likeness of wukong? Seems kinda silly to be mad over that.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 days ago

          That’s an interesting question!

          I found this:

          The Song’s imperial successors, and especially the Ming (A.D. 1368-1644), endeavored to strengthen state control of publication, although relatively few changes were made to the formal structure of regulation until the Qing. Each post-Song dynastic code specifically forbade the unauthorized republication of governmental works on astronomy, the civil service examinations, and other materials long considered sensitive. Additionally, each contained provisions banning “devilish books.” These provisions were supplemented periodically by special decrees— as may be seen, for example, in the Hongwu Emperor’s (1368-92) orders that all works disparaging the newly founded Ming dynasty even indirectly through the use of homophonic puns be eliminated," and in the Qianlong Emperor’s (1736-96) famous decree of 1774 requiring that all literature be reviewed so that any books containing heterodox ideas could be destroyed.

          Alford, William P… To steal a book is an elegant offense: intellectual property law in Chinese civilization. 1995.

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              I don’t know beyond the article I just read and cited. I’m sure it changed in the republic. It says they started a new system in the 1920s then in the PRC in 1980s. I’m sure the answer is them no that family of the author does not own it.

              That said if one was to use details specific to modern Chinese or English translations I’m sure that is copyrighted

  • Granbo's Holy Hotrod
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    74 days ago

    How long before the news reports the game was just stealing your data.

  • @yesman
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    64 days ago

    Because I’m not allowed to read the article to know if this is mentioned: a big reason why this would aggravate Wukong fans is that Nintendo is a Japanese company.

    • @NOT_RICK
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      Nintendo isn’t the developer though. Having a hard time figuring out where “Global Game Studio” is based out of.

      Also, byebyepaywall.com is your friend

      • @Electricblush
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        124 days ago

        As if random internet outrage ever cared about getting the fundamental details correct, when there is rage to be had.

      • Aatube
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        or bypass paywalls clean. though all this is contributing to a bit of irony…

  • @Caesium
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    13 days ago

    hey if this stops the slip that gets chugged out on the store I’m all for it

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    -134 days ago

    Are they upset or does western media constantly try to portray Chinese internet users as sensitive?

    • @[email protected]
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      123 days ago

      I mean this is pretty standard fare for any gamers, anywhere. But I’m sure this question is being asked in good faith :)

    • @[email protected]
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      103 days ago

      idk, but I saw some of the insane shit they were posting when Black Myth: Wukong didn’t win Game of the Year at the Game Awards. It wouldn’t surprise me if that anger is spilling over to other targets.

    • @icecreamtaco
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      Chinese internet users are overly sensitive

    • Aatube
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      they are upset, as upset as any normal person is against those meme clickbait garbage videos