As an American, was he bad? From my limited POV I feel like he was doing a decent job. I’ve seen comments lately indicating otherwise, and this article points to COVID, immigration, costs of living, and housing as reasons. I feel like most of those topics are not easy answers or directly related to a lot that can be done without drastic changes that will most likely not see the result I think people are looking for. Is this another case of spreading propaganda long enough that people who want answers believe the worst? I am genuinely curious about what is really taking place here and why.
Canada has a history of ping-ponging between Conservative and Liberal governments every ~10 years.
I think Trudeau was fine as a Liberal PM. The one difference this iteration was that they formed government on a promise to change the electoral system, and they didn’t follow through. That could have ended the cycle. They burned everyone on the left with that move, and they lost the right because the right has gone Trumpist. So now they’re fucked, and we’re all fucked too. 🎉
This sounds incredibly familiar
He’s human.
He’s made good choices and poor ones but overall decent.
If he stays on it would hand the election to Poilievre as Canadians are sick of Trudeau but by resigning he’s giving someone else a chance.
There’s your problem. You need to be electing Lizard People, like we do in the states.
I’ve lived in Canada my whole life and lived comfortably up until Covid hit. After the pandemic everything went completely out of whack. My grocery bill tripled, the cost of everything exploded, and we’re experiencing a housing apocalypse (crisis isn’t the correct word anymore). Canada is basically 3 corporations in a trench coat and we’re heading in all the wrong directions.
What we need is a complete housing rugpull and to kneecap grocery chains or to increase wages to keep up with corporate greed but I don’t think thats going to happen. I’ve also seen a bunch of anti-worker policies become popular in general like leaning on contract/part time work so employers don’t have to pay out benefits and pensions. I could go on and on about that lol. Anyway a lot of people I know straight up left the country and get paid way more to do less work and live in much more affordable conditions, I myself might be doing that soon. Basically its a lot of short-sighted thinking resulting in massive brain drain where I work. I think most of our problems stem from unchecked corporate greed across every industry and we have to put up with it because most major companies operate in a duopoly. I’m not an expert but thats my take. its time for a MAJOR course-correction.
US here. Same! Except I was hoping to flee to Canada…
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100% true, and the fact that Shaw just got rolled into Rogers in the middle of anti-monopolist popular fervor is pretty depressing. The grocery industry is absolutely vile. Trudeau was acceptable and mostly made reasonable choices but my God I’d vote for anyone who forwarded stronger antitrust legislation and rulings.
Fucking Pierre ain’t gonna do it, the Cons always end up pushing legislation to get cushy megacorp board positions after their terms are up. Jagmeet seems more interested in fucking around than doing anything, and Trudeau was palatable but failed to tackle the monopolists at all.
Insanity to me how much the corpos own our country and how none of the parties seem to care.
Thats what I find so frustrating! If I were the NDP right now I’d be going all out with ads and a plan of action! I want to hear something different for once instead of maintaining the status quo. They have a golden opportunity to leap frog over the libs and get some momentum. We’ve been complaining about the same issues over and over for years, you’d think at least someone would try to leverage that! I hope they don’t just roll over and let pierre waltz into the leadership position I can’t stand that guy at all!
Right? But no Jagmeet’s gonna do the Conservative team up no one asked for and vote no confidence! PP’s ideas are just dumb and the Liberals seem hell bent on ignoring the monopolistic cancer that’s finally metastasized over the past 5 years after lurking for the past 30.
I’d vote for anyone that said they’d force a breakup of Loblaws, Safeway and others.
I’m sure people have legitimate complaints about him but compared to the US he seemed godly. Just for starters he isn’t anywhere near 80 and isn’t a felon plus is capable of speaking coherently.
He’s happily committing mass extinction by permitting tar sands oil extraction. That existential threat is pretty bad…
As I understand it (not Canadian), the big problem with him was that he straight up lied about a lot of his platform. Other than that it seems like he was kind of a Canadian Biden, decent overall but not what the country needed/needs.
My theory is that he just doesn’t want to have to work with Trump anymore.
I don’t think Trudeau resigning will improve the Liberals’ chances in the next election, so this decision seems mostly personal.
Haven’t been keeping up with our own politics?
Have been. His own party has been calling for his resignation for months, if not longer. Doing so early enough might’ve given Canada more time to warm up to the new Liberal leader, but resigning now won’t help his party win.
The difference now is that he has to work with Trump, lol
He was Prime Minister the last time Trump was around.
I guess it’s funny like “yeah I’d quit my job too if a shit bag like that started working at the desk beside me.” But in reality this has been brewing for months, like you said. And he has known (and already had to deal with Trump, again) since the election.
He knows his job is toast by the next election, so he’s just quitting to have a couple fewer months working with Trump, haha
The rumours did seem to be getting “stronger” around the time of the election, lol
He certainly must see the writing on the wall.
What it looks like from my stupid American point of view is the right-wing nutjobs have once again MAGA’d and Brexited their way to fooling 50.1% of registered voters in order to take over the government for corporations.
To install right-wing justices, steal from the coffers, turn a blind eye to polluters, and continue entrenching right wing propaganda at every turn.
NZ too. AUS seems on the brink. Fuck.
That’s not what is going on here. Trudeau’s party is still in charge, they just have to pick a new leader, which they will do in March.
Parliamentary systems do not work the way you seem to think they do.
Right so they’re still in the phase of paving the way for the far-right come October. Do the Liberals have anyone who is going to curb the trajectory away from the current path where Trudeau loses to the Conservatives?
How is Peter Putinfever going to make stupid rhymes now?
But, seriously, I’m both relieved and surprised and maybe a little more anxious about what happens next.
The same day Trump becomes president in the US? Literally the same day?!?
God help us
What will all the flag and sticker bearers that wanted to sleep with the PM do now? I mean, some made it a big investment, large flags like that may have cost a few beers…
Trudeau wasn’t terrible, but he wasn’t going to win again. I only voted Liberal once (otherwise NDP who are center-left to left). I did so because Trudeau promised to get rid of first-past-the-post elections, and when that didn’t happen they lost me. My take on his time as leader is that he was decent during hard times. Not great, not terrible - life got harder as Canadians but we fared better than a lot of countries.
I’d much rather have him than the MAGA-lite conservative government which I fear my nation is headed for. My right-wing family members seem to share very similar faults to MAGA. I really don’t want Americans to get fucked by Trump and his reality-show appointees, but it looks like that’s what the US is headed for regardless of my wishes. I can only hope that our undecideds look at the mess the US Republicans are already and move away from voting in that mindset here.
BTW, Trump responding by continuing to call Canada as the 51st state and referring to our office of Prime Minister as the “governor of Canada” is shit behaviour and likely to burn through some goodwill. I know the folks reading this have no control over that clown, but I’m not looking forward to getting that attitude from the bloc of voters that parrot his verbal diarrhea.
“Many people in Canada LOVE being the 51st State,” Trump posted on his social media platform Truth Social. “If Canada merged with the U.S., there would be no Tariffs, taxes would go way down, and they would be TOTALLY SECURE from the threat of the Russian and Chinese Ships that are constantly surrounding them. Together, what a great Nation it would be!!!” Fuck right off you spray-painted felon sex offender.
As an American I agree with everything you said after your BTW. It’s fucking wild that Trump is as awful as he is. It’s wise that he seems to be genuine about the Canada stuff. I’ve lived close to the border for a long time and America’s hat stuff is common… But like it’s a meme, it’s not supposed to be real life. What a fucking lunatic we voted for. I’m sorry, I’m setting up to get out as soon as anti-trans stuff gets rolling.
I still love you guys. You’re our closest ally by far. It’s just sometimes I hear stuff like that and have to remind myself heh. Plus I know it was like 75m against vs 77m for Trump so it’s not like there isn’t opposition that continues to this day and foreseeable future.
Not a huge Trudeau fan, but I’d vote for him over SkiPPy every day of the week.
JT’s main failings IMHO is that despite all the good he did (national pharmacare, dental care, and 10$ a day child care) did not get any media attention, and provinces run by conservative premiers tried to suppress the programs as much as possible.
He passed the buck on housing for too long, letting Conservative provinces stoke the flames and blame him - and nobody seems to realize housing and healthcare are largely provincial matters. There was plenty JT could have done to expose this, or remedy how federal housing funding is allocated.
He let our grocery monopoly dictate price with no consequences for Greed based inflation.
Completely sold out workers with a “flood the streets” immigration policy. These new people receive significantly more government assistance than “real Canadians” which rightly pissed everyone off. - FWIW, the Conservatives will absolutely bring even more in, but Fuck Trudeau amirite
Homelessness is at all time highs and so are shelter costs, meaning eating in a shelter you rent/own basically makes you the 1% even though you can’t afford anything.
He completely lied about election reform, one of the main mandates he had when originally elected.
The core of his failing is spending tons of money, but very little of it going to the people who need it while everyone became poorer due to inflation. He wasn’t nearly as “left wing” where it counted as he thinks, and we basically got Neoliberalism with a rainbow flag on top.
(totally support LGBTQ, but not wanting to do gay/trans people harm while actively selling out Canada to corporate interests isn’t “left” at all.)
Instead, we’re going to vote in SkiPPy, who is a capitalist laptog - to save us from crushing capitalism. Because as a nation we have strong voter apathy and no civic comprehension.
Also a huge majority of Canadian media is owned by billionaires with right wing agendas, so they shat on JT consistently for 10 years and the public is listening to them mainly because life is objectively worse for the middle class since Covid inflation made housing and food unaffordable for future generations while wages were actively suppressed by JT himself.
The people who own homes and like their equity explosion still hate Trudeau, but also continue to want their home values to explode but are somehow pissed properties they do not own are also expensive.
And let’s not forget crime. We have almost 0 laws in Canada unless you are homeless (protected from consequences for everything bad you do) - or you try to defend yourself/your property (literally the most evil thing you can do.)
Rapists and violent assault cases routinely are released, or don’t get speedy trials and there are 0 consequences to their abhorrent crimes (lots of provincial issues here, but again, everyone loves to blame Trudeau)
Oh, and his gun ban is completely assanine and does nothing to stop the obvious illegal gunflow from the US that are used in nearly every crime with a gun. Complete tone def waste of money that makes him the easiest conservative target. Maybe 5% of Canadians think it’s actually going to do anything.
Unfortunately a 100% accurate reflection of Canadian politics. So dumb that basically everyone other than Alberta agrees that Trudeau did some good stuff that didn’t get advertised, some dumb fuck political games that did nothing of value but also no damage, and our complete monopoly of basically every industry is cucking micro and macro economic growth and yet we’re here blaming Trudeau and not fronting any anti-monopolist parties.
PP will win and Jagmeet will continue to fail to capitalize on the popular anti corporate sentiments while the Liberals will ban the guns they just unbanned in the meantime.
Yay! The mean girls won! Only 9 years of incessant “he’s too pretty to be any good at real work” from the party singularly incapable of defining what “real work” is (or “govern”, or “care”, for that matter) and he’s out.
They sure showed Canada.
Now to heckle the next guy incessantly as that’s proved a winning strategy.
Trudeau has been done for a while. His wife resigned way before his finance minister. I don’t look forward to the next 5 years. We have Trump-light in waiting in the conservative leader pierre poilievre.
Why is there a bot icon next to your name?
I don’t know? edit: oh god my setting says it’s a bot account LMAO. I changed this. Jesus christ. must’ve been an accident.
Now you have a cake icon, happy birthday!
Or did you turn into a cake?
Thanks! didn’t realize it’s my 1 year anniversary.
You would know if you were a robot, wouldn’t you?
If robots did then we’re all in trouble.
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There we go lol
I was going to ask you to write me some code to test
It was his time to go. Hopefully a good replacement can be found.
You can hope but it doesn’t look like it. Well see.
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