I’ve always found it super interesting that Disney made a kids’ thing out of that particular book. Because that’s a bleak fucking book full of nasty filthy disgusting terrible people doing nasty filthy disgusting terrible things. Someone went “you know the classic where a couple of city officials drool after a gypsy woman and violently rape her in a cathedral and then hang her in the street? And a grotesque monster rampages against them for it? Wouldn’t the kids just love that one but as a musical and instead of hanging her they burn her at the stake?”
gypsy woman
Sixteen in the novel.
“Also, let’s turn a womanizing thug into a fucking Disney prince, the kiddies will love it.”
More to the point, why hasn’t Troma taken a stab at it yet?
It would be very nice if being conventionally unattractive also made a person attracted to other conventionally unattractive people.
I wonder what hurts more: the unfulfilled asymmetric entitlement shown in the comic or intellectual honesty of the “I wouldn’t be attracted to me, so I shouldn’t expect most other people to be attracted to me either” sort. Probably the honesty, since many people pick experiencing the entitlement.
I’m in camp #2, I think camp #1 would be worse, cuz you’d end up trying and failing and getting rejected. Can’t be disappointed if you never have hope to begin with.
Overall I think the entitlement hurts more, especially over time, but it’s a lot easier to blame external factors than it is to look inward and see where you can improve yourself.
There may be more initial hurt from being honest with yourself, but once you get past that initial hurt and begin working on yourself, you find things you love about yourself and don’t need the external validation as much as you thought you did. Honesty it the first step on the journey of self-improvement and ultimately self-love. Once you love yourself it’s easier for other people to see what’s lovable about you.
Entitlement just makes you angry at other people and drives them away, leaving you alone with your anger.
I’ve been in the honesty camp for the last decade, however I’ve come to accept that I’ll never love myself. I still have my anger, but I focus it inward where it belongs.
As long as you aren’t blaming others for that anger.
Also go easier on yourself, I’m willing to bet you don’t deserve the amount of anger you direct at yourself. I realize that probably doesn’t mean a whole lot coming from someone who doesn’t know you or your situation, but it’s something to consider
I think this describes 99% of incels
Yeah, that rings a bell.
One might say it’s their defining trait
At least he doesn’t say it out loud.
Can’t have what I want, don’t want what I can have.
The world is truly against me.
“I would never join a club that would allow someone like me as a member.”
When I like them, they don’t like me, when they like me, I don’t like them.
— George Costanza
Ok, bit of a nit pick here but just cause she’s also not conventionally pretty doesn’t mean he can “have her”.
It’s implied that she likes him, at least more than the other ladies
Saying something encouraging to somebody is not the same as saying “I’m interested in you”.
This is a distinction most incels don’t really get.
Bruh, don’t do my boi Quasimodo like this.
I think that the internet is the cause of this, and globalization. Porn addiction etc. All of those things are brand spanking new relative to our evolutionary timeline
Are people are claiming this is how men are? They aren’t. Most lonely men would date a mop head if it was nice to them. If men aren’t interested in you, it’s probably your actions, and personality, keeping them from reciprocating attraction. Try being a good homosapien, then people will respond better in general. Now if you idiots are still trying to force attractive men to date wildabeasts, and this is actually you trying to make a swipe at attractive men that won’t date thunderthighs and a face like melted ice cream, try treating the unattractive men like humans, every single ugly dude I know would fall overthemselves to have a fat pile of ice cream treat them like a human being.
You know not every interaction is a competition, right?
Not men in general. Just incels.
Ironic that you suggest treating men like humans when you describe women as wildebeasts and fat piles of ice cream.
You should take your own advice and be a good homo sapien.
Are people are claiming this is how men are?
I think what’s intended is that’s how many PEOPLE are. Not all… not most… but I definately hear that kind of talk from a lot of people.
If you go to dating apps you’ll hear over and over “I hate these apps, whenever I get a like it’s someone horribly ugly”.
We have very different dating apps.
I get “I hate these apps. I don’t know what to say.”
And thats their whole bio, with like 20 bikini photos. And then I skip, because yeah, you look pretty and all, but I’m lonely and want to talk and talk and talk, and you apperently have the conversatiomal value of a fish.
Or the other apps the women all want to travel. I just want to find an evil woman, who wants to stay home, tie me up, tickle me, and ignore any pleas to stop. Then, it’s my turn to tie her up, and be evil!
What? Did you think I was calling all women evil? Pssshhh! I wish! How hott would THAT be???
Some men are. I had a friend who would constantly lament that women would not give him a chance because of his weight but he did not go after girls who were the female equivalent of him. He figured because he was not going after the super hot he was being realistic but he constantly chased after above average while he was below average. Now he would date pretty much any girl if she went after him and he was not in a relationship but he was always looking to trade up. Now what really gets me is you reading a comic and assuming its meant to portray everyone as a type. If you see a black person in a comic do you think the comic is saying something of all black people? I will say that guy I knew would completely deny the way he was even though it was plain to anyone who knew him for any length of time.
If men were nice to them, the mops would be willing.
Women really don’t ask for much.
Source: I have children
