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Summary
Special counsel Jack Smith’s report asserts sufficient evidence existed to convict Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election but cites Trump’s 2024 presidential victory as the reason charges were dropped, due to constitutional protections for sitting presidents.
Smith detailed Trump’s actions, including pressuring officials, spreading false election claims, and encouraging protests.
While charges against co-conspirators were considered, no final conclusions were reached.
Smith denied political bias, emphasizing adherence to facts and law.
The report also references challenges like expanded presidential immunity.
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Woulda coulda shoulda
Imagine believing that this racist system of violence created by literal slave masters is about justice.
Ok, but he wasn’t a president when he did the crime. Convict him.
Biden wasn’t sworn in yet, Trump was still President.
Yeah, no shit. Words can’t describe how furious I am about Jan. 6 and the utter lack of accountability for the powerful people responsible for it. Including the GOP bootlickers in power at the time and still to this day.
Whenever my rage starts to fade, I remind myself how things would have played out if it’d been Obama and his followers who’d attacked the Capitol.
What is the constitutional protection for sitting presidents? You mean that part in the constitution which says presidents are basically kings and they are above the law and they can do whatever they want? Oh yeah, that part. That part that totally exists and totally says that.
SCOTUS says this constitutional protections are there. We should totally trust SCOTUS. It’s not like SCOTUS is unbelievably corrupt, doing the bidding of billionaires, or trying to usher in a Conservative wet dream.
Would’ve, could’ve, should’ve. You had several years to do it.
I think if anyone is to blame, and there are people, it’s not Jack Smith. I feel he’s one that actually did try and got fucked at every turn by corruption and Canon.
Look at them trying to convince us there’s rule of law. Don’t worry guys, the system that isn’t completely corrupt to its core WOULD have worked. Source: Trust me bro.
Aw shucks, that’s a bummer. Good try though, fellas! You gave it your all and I’m sure you’ll gettem next time!
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Don’t wait so long that the criminal can run and win again, before justice gets served then…
All this time and effort and the only person that came close to stopping this madness was Thomas Matthew Crooks.
This memo that the DOJ prepared one time decades ago that asserts an opinion that sitting presidents cannot be prosecuted, has somehow brought us to this.
I know it’s all too late to do anything remotely constructive, but if a democratically-minded AG at any time under Obama or Biden had thought, “Gee, that doesn’t seem right. It’s crazy to think anyone is above the law and this gives an overwhelming incentive to be evil. Let’s trash and redo that memo,” it’s possible Trump would not have had the incentive to run again, or that the DOJ wouldn’t have taken so much time to prosecute.
I just think sometimes about how many infinitesimal probabilities had to align - how dedicated and consistently wrong so many actors had to be at so many crucial decision points - to create this uniquely, thoroughly awful result.
Biden should have stolen something minor, like, for example, an ice cream sandwich, and the Republicans would have flopped over and ratified the bill.
They didn’t align by chance. Republicans have been pushing and shoving since Nixon to get as many lined up as they can.
In the completely unhinged dub of the anime “Ghost Stories”, they make a throwaway joke about how Bush is stacking the courts to oppress minorities. Sad and scary how relevant that joke is 25 years later.
I wish there was some sort of organization that would push back against them, maybe like some kind of political party that emphasizes a democratic approach to politics
Too bad we only have the Donorcratic party in the running
I always thought that memo meant something entirely different. It’s not that sitting Presidents have some sort of immunity, but rather a recognition that there can never be an impartial investigation of the person who is in charge of the investigators.
Let’s say that memo wasn’t there, and the President was accused of some sort of crime – but upon investigating, the DoJ decided not to press charges. Could we really ever be sure he was innocent? Woudnt the conspiracy theory always exist that the President quashed it? The proper thing to do would be to either wait until he is out of office, or appoint someone with some statutory independence, who is able to make decisions without interference. I always thought that memo was simply an attempt to preserve the integrity of the DoJ by keeping it out of an obvious conflict of interest.
Of course, the Supreme Court weighed in with their totally bonkers interpretation of it, giving the President free reign to do whatever the hell he wants. Their opinion matters more than mine, unfortunately.
appoint someone with some statutory independence, who is able to make decisions without interference
That’s what they did. Twice. Robert Muller and Jack Smith performed independent investigations and recommended criminal prosecution.
But then the rest of government killed it.
Mueller specifically did not recommend charges and Smith never finished his homework. There’s certainly enough in both cases to reach the conclusion you did but that’s not technically what happened in either case.
Well great job dragging your asses and never getting this out in time to save the USA. Now we get at least 4 more years of terror, hopefully we’re all still here after.
TBH I’m not sure how would this “obviously political witch hunt /s” affect elections. It could go the other way you’d expect.
Not with a lot of the modern GOP. They’re fully convinced the “establishment” is out to get each and every one of them, personally, and Trump being accused of interfering in an election is just fuel on that fire.
This is nonsense. He wouldn’t have been convicted and the proof for that was that he wasn’t convicted.
It was never going to happen. The timing made sure of it.
A convenient excuse.
My homework would have got an A+ if I had handed it in.
let the records show that i did in fact do my homework. to prove this, i will release it publicly to world. pay no mind to the fact that the deadline has already passed.
Thank you Merrick Garland!
It would be funny now if trumps DOJ threw Garland in jail, would serve him right for not doing his job when he had the chance.
I might break my schadenfreude gland.
Jack Smith better be getting him and his family the fuck out of the U.S. and to a country without an extradition treaty because their lives are worth nothing in America now.
Unfortunately, that doesn’t leave him with a lot of great options.
I’m not saying it isn’t correct, but the US having an extradition treaty with Cuba is a bit suspicious.
Interesting that we don’t have a treaty with Ukraine…
You can live pretty well in China. They call themselves expats when they live there.
With what he knows? They would interrogate the fuck out of him and keep him under constant surveillance.
Nah they’d hire him.
Y’all thinking anything is going to happen to Jack are going to be surprised when nothing happens to him and he writes his book and gets his TV show and just coasts into retirement in a gated community.
“It’s a big club and you ain’t in it.” but Jack and Don both are.
Yeah, Trump would have to get pretty bored to go after Jack Smith… maybe -MAYBE- a Gaetz DOJ would have gone after him like a cat offering a dead mouse at Trump’s front door, but I don’t really see Trump world caring about this any longer. All the FNC talking heads have stopped, well, talking about Jack Smith.
Exactly, he served his purpose. He “prosecuted” Trump, he aired the crimes committed and purposely slow walked the investigation. Trump won a second term, Jack will now “fade into obscurity” with a book deal, tv show, and mansion.
