Yeah, I’m staying on Rednote
This is my surprised face 😐 because that’s exactly what I expected to happen.
Waiting for them to rename it to XikXok
Is… China in support of the Palestinian genocide? They’ve been very vocally critical of Israel throughout the past year…
This is like. AmericaTok. America is the nation that engages in by far the most Palestinian genocide denialism.
Uh, the X is probably in reference to Musk-Twitter.
Yeah, I’m staying on Rednote
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Edit: didn’t know people here like rednote
Check what instance this community is on lol
Oh, oops, I missed that.
I dont care about TikTok, I don’t care about rednote. I’m just happy people are trying new things. I feel some people here underestimate the percentage of the people online who will avoid trying new things.
Think of how many people just have facebook and/or google be “the internet”. They underestimate the things the average users will put up with to avoid having to switch services/operating systems and so on.
This is a good thing, even if they aren’t going to a service you prefer.
Are there any other popular short-form content alternatives right now? Insta sucks and Loops is very much not ready yet.
my question is why do you even need a time-sucking and addictive short video app?
Youtube shorts? Idk, that’s the only short-form video content I partake in.
Maybe redgifs.com? (nsfw) 😅
Can’t forget about that one
That was fast. Almost as if they already had an implementation in place controlling content since the start of the app.
Not an adjustment, it’s literally always been that way.
Loops.video, or at least Bluesky.
Bluesky will meet the same fate. It’s “federated” mostly in name only.
Loops is promising though, but it’s obviously not polished enough or ready for mass use yet
I’m not recommending bsky, I’m just done fighting it if that’s where the normies want to go.
anything with enough money behind it will enshitify and you’ll find yourself looking for an alternative again in the future.
I mean, fuck Tik Tok, yes. But also try saying “Liberate Hong Kong”, “Taiwan Independence”, “Remember Tiananmen Square 1989”, or “Xi is Winnie The Pooh” on Rednote. Let’s not pretend that Rednote, or any other Chinese media, is free of censorship either.
The difference here is that TikTok did not enforce censorship on content related to the genocide in Palestine, nor did it have a right-wing bias in the algorithm like, say, Twitter does.
This shift in censorship puts TikTok in line with Twitter and Facebook/Instagram on the propaganda narrative that they want on their platform. Which is a massive issue for anybody left of white supremacists who cares about free speech and facts.
nor did it have a right-wing bias
looks at how they promote AfD influencers in Germany, and how they promoted targeted videos to try to elect a neo-nazi in Romania
It doesn’t have what?
Well arguably it has whatever-destabilizes-the-country-the-most bias, but for most of the western world this mostly means they have a pro local fascists bias.
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That’s a very American national-solipsistic view of TikTok.
I’m not an American national. Just a trans person. I wonder why it would matter to me when all major social media websites start allowing people to call for genocide against my community.
TikTok has been promoting trans-genocide in several European countries for years.
It was like two months ago tiktok was used to get a random hard right guy to win the Romanian elections
You should be concerned about this if you live in China.
Or if you apply for a visa!
I would imagine you would also want to avoid getting on their list if you ever wanted to travel to there as a tourist.
You’re right, that would be a concern if I felt important enough for China to give a fuck about me and what I have to say as a foreign national. Too bad that me only exists in your imagination and the real me understands that the world does not revolve around their travel and internet activity.
I’m not following the logic, do they censor content differently based on the country of the account holder??
They meant physical consequences as in using China’s internet access unique id to identify the commenter and then having them “reeducated” by local government forces.
It does not matter that China censors because TikTok users live in the West.
Yes, you’re right. “This population under a genocide should liberated” and “Chinese man is yellow bear lol” are equivalent forms of conversation. Absolutely heroic.
Way to cherry pick (and imply anti-Asian racism about a meme started by the Chinese citizenry). Regardless, censorship is censorship.
Poor baby doesn’t get to (1) call for violence on an international scale (2) Commit blood libel, or (3) Be openly racist
Typical western liberal
Lol. Are you trying to be serious? Because this comment is funny as hell.
shut the fuck up reddit bot
God I wish I were a bot.
Keep trying, I guarantee you’ll lose your humanity
Well as for point 1, there is, at most, equal as much call for violence in the phrase “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”, so those are actually decent comparisons of calls to action. Except really, as Hong Kong is not in open war with China, there really is no need for violence. China just has to give up its false claim to it. That’s even more true with Taiwanese Independence. That requires no violence at all. China is the source of the threatened violence in that case, and they simply need to recognize and respect Taiwan’s Independence from them.
As for your point number 2, I assume this is in reference to Tiananmen Square? First of all, you need to look up the definition of libel. “Remember Tiananmen Square 1989” does not make any claims of fact, true or not, so there is no way that that statement itself is libel. Second, I’ll state outright that the massacre that occurred on June 4th 1989 is a fact, and you can kiss my ass if you are claiming otherwise. True statements, btw, are also not libelous.
And as for point 3, really? I’m racist to repeat a childish meme about an authoritarian leader that his own Chinese citizens came up with? That shit started on the Chinese internet, my guy, not in the west. You have got an uphill battle if you want to claim that the Chinese people are racist against Chinese people. Dumbass.
equal as much call for violence “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”
No there fucking isn’t. First of all, Hong Kong has been a part of China a great many centuries before the US had started their first genocide (and boy did they start early) and was wrested from them by colonial violence, like Palestine was wrested by the colonizing Europeans. Violence of the oppressed isn’t equal to the violence of the oppressor as much as libs like to clutch their pearls about it, the most unspeakable violence is what’s happening BY NOT FREEING PALESTINE.
“Free Hong Kong” coming from fucking westerners is as disgusting as “Free Panama” was and “Free Texas” way back when. It means “free to be looted by US” and fuck everyone who still does the legwork for imperialists.
I’m genuinely trying, but I can’t follow your meaning. I dont think we disagree as much as you think we do. Though, I’m not sure because I cant quite parse what you are arguing.
What I can follow though is that you have a problem with me specifically saying “Free Hong Kong” for whatever reason. Whatever you think of the merits of the sentiment of freeing Hong Kong, or of me saying so as a westerner, is entirely beside the point I was making about censorship. It have no intention of arguing geopolitics or pretending that it is my area of expertise. It is a comparable statement to “Free Palestine” in so far as it supports the sovereignty of a smaller nation being controlled (or worse) by a larger nation. One is apparently censored by Tik Tok, the other would be censored by Rednote. I think censoring either is wrong.
You are a profoundly unserious person if you equate the 100 year lease of Hong Kong, that was signed at the point of a gun, ending for the Brit*sh and ownership reverting to the Chinese with the genocide of the Palestinians by the settler colonial state.
You’re just being a vulgar imperialist. I didn’t read further.
I didn’t read further.
Cool. I read everything you wrote. You’re reading comprehension needs work. Thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my life.
You’re reading comprehension
Laughing at your mental inferiority aside, you’re a gutless fucking coward for just using that as an excuse to not engage with WHY your opinion is worth throwing in the garbage bin, which I articulated perfectly well enough to respond to if you had the will or ability.
Nooooo. My swipe keyboard wrote the wrong woooord!! Now I’ve lost the argument to the illiterate! /s Grow up.
Laughing at your mental inferiority aside, you’re a gutless fucking coward for just using that as an excuse to not engage with WHY your opinion is worth throwing in the garbage bin, which I articulated perfectly well enough to respond to if you had the will or ability.
Oh hey its you again, the crazy guy that shouts the most wild insults at people
Hey look it’s a stalker.
No, it’s just the guy incoherently screaming insults at random people for no reason stands out like a sore thumb.
Repeating nazi propaganda is a fine reason to call someone a nazi
Oh please Mr enlightened one, explain to me how pointing out that Chinese censorship is a real thing that exists is actually “Nazi propaganda”, I eagerly await your intelligent and well reasoned response.
Hey look the nazi is being dishonest so as to argue in bad faith. Wow. Totally not apropos. Apparently they get to assign me a proper reasoning that I have to prove instead of allowing me to have my own reasons.
You spread nazi propaganda created by nazis to disparage the historic enemies of nazi germany to this day. And that propaganda being created in the first place to downplay the holocaust, you are a holocaust denier. You are a nazi.
This is not a discussion.
How is loops doing?
I just got my account yesterday.
After signing up the day before.
And I’ll say, having never used TikTok, I don’t actually know how they compare to each other…
I never checked it out but the biggest issue for social media is always content. Does Loops have a lot/good content or is it dead?
It’s still beta as far as I can tell, I wouldn’t go expecting billions of users generating your entertainment for you
Tiktok has always been like this.
Their comment system is absolutely broken and actually it’s probably on purpose. 90% of these comments get restored on appeal but they are already burried deep so it’s very popular moderation strategy where the system relies on correction to appear safe an intelligent but the correction ends up being irrevant in the grand scale of things.
Same thing with Twitter community notes which add context when everyone already read the tweet to give an illusion of moderation and safety.
As an engineer I’m honestly very impressed by the effectivenes of this strategy — it’s brilliant despite, you know, being evil — and it’ll take public a while to catch up.
It’s a problem with YouTube too. I would say that at least 40% of my comments end up removed.
They also like to rub my nose in it by sending me notifications from whatever thread I replied to.
I’d love to have a decent alternative.
Edit:
And removing the thumbs down count was very damaging, I think. You can see that 60 people support Hitler but you have to install an add on to know that 300 people didn’t agree with that garbage. It’s a mess.
Mossad must have a fuck ton of kompromat
Got that server migration to Meta done in only 14 hours
Yeah, I’m staying on Rednote
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Rednote is pretty wholesome
Instead of this comment, you could have recommended mastodon.
Why don’t you want mastodon to succeed? Is your pride and vanity worth more then the fediverse?
I do recommend and use Mastodon. I even have a link to my Mastodon profile in my Lemmy Bio. I recommend other parts of the Fediverse as well, Firefish, Sharkey, Misskey, Iceshrimp, Mbin, WriteFreely, PeerTube, Owncast, Pixelfed, Loops, Castopod and others are all great platforms.
The absolute irony of the person posting clown emojis being a clown themselves.
Liberals really can’t do anything but project, huh?
The world sees you for the fool you are.
I think their eluding to the federated/decentralized equivalent. There’s little difference in switching sides to another state moderated app xD
What a surprise.
