• @[email protected]
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    6 hours ago

    Sadly election results prove every few years, that you are the only one seeking radical change.

    ~30-50% want extreme conservativism/capitalism. ~20-40% want everything as-is.
    ~30% want mild improvements like a really low UBI.
    <5% want to get rid of oligarchs.
    <.1% want to eliminate suffering.

    • @Clinicallydepressedpoochie
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      13 hours ago

      This would be of the voting populace. Which is 2/3rd… NM I don’t have the energy to explain.

  • @iAvicenna
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    55 hours ago

    ok next try to find a common ground on how to actually fight for a better world

    • Cowbee [he/they]
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      65 hours ago

      Others have done that, we should analyze how they managed to do it and what we can learn from them that applies to our conditions and what does not.

        • @BothsidesistFraud
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          53 hours ago

          People don’t want to organize around homeless outreach, that’s why the huge, costly, and incessant efforts in most cities never turn into literally any useful political action. Most people are more selfish than that, and it’s also unclear how giving away donated food and socks translates to anything, anywhere else, in society.

          Parents/teacher groups and labor unions are a lot closer to the mark because that stuff has actual impact on the people involved. Although I’m skeptical - the parent/teacher zeitgeist is now one of conflict after the COVID school closures. But it’s a place to get traction.

          The old school anarchists used grand acts of violence, i.e. propaganda of the deed. Luigi tried that, seems to have dissipated.

          Everyone’s just rich enough to not care about shit like this any more.

            • @BothsidesistFraud
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              At a certain point you’re at a local maxima and incremental changes just don’t work. They have to be big changes to knock off the hill to another valley and then society has to do the hill climbing again. Sucks and painful but no other way IMO.

              Okay, so Luigi didn’t cut healthcare costs. Did you working with people locally cut healthcare costs?

              I volunteer in a few things in my neighborhood but I basically do it for warm fuzzies and because I want to make/keep my neighborhood nice. I don’t have any aspirations that it’ll become grander.

        • Cowbee [he/they]
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          24 hours ago

          It’s not easy, nor is it impossible. Organizing is simply hard, and thus we need to see what has worked for others.

  • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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    4314 hours ago

    Have you talked to people? They’re pretty insufferable.

    • Iapar
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      35 hours ago

      Everyone is tired and on edge so we fight each other as it was planned.

    • comfy
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      I have talked to people. That’s how I’ve found fellow socialists at work, alongside some others who are increasingly (and surprisingly) critical of capitalism and systematic issues affecting them.

      Obviously culture changes from place to place, I don’t know your circumstances, but I expected my workplace to be especially conservative.

      • @P00ptart
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        I was surprised how few people I work with are Republicans. Yeah it’s a union shop but it’s still hard to find in manufacturing. It may just be that they keep their mouths shut to avoid being outed, I don’t know.

        • comfy
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          Maybe. It could also be just a general aversion of politics in the workplace, it’s usually not a good place to start (non-work related) political fights.

          • @P00ptart
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            49 hours ago

            Actually politics are pretty well discussed here, especially because of our current situation in the economy, plus talks of moving to Mexico.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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        114 hours ago

        Yeah, most people I’ve met are like that.

        It’s everything else I ca t stand.

    • @[email protected]
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      in turkey there are 400 thousand communists that always vote for minority parties and a fuck load more that vote for other parties because minority parties have no chance

      This is in an extremely conservative country and you might see through that USA, Germany, Britain and alike have a higher percentage of such population

  • Chemical Wonka
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    14 hours ago

    Alles was fehlt damit die Revolution in Gang kommt, ist, dass jemand den ersten Schritt tut

    • Iapar
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      35 hours ago

      Luigi sagt nein.

      Braucht wahrscheinlich eher sowas wie ne netflix serie oder ein tiktok Video.