I found one post from 12 hours ago that describes the problem: https://lemmy.ml/post/2650814 - but that’s all I’ve seen. Content is way down on lemmy.ml with nothing coming in from .world

EDIT: seems that lemmy.ml is getting some content delivered to .world, but .world communities seem islands on .ml that only have local new posts/comments.

  • RuudMA
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    10911 months ago

    I’ll check the new way Lemmy detects dead servers, it’s possible an outage caused lemmy.ml to think we’re dead (we’re not!) :-)

    • @boeman
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      2811 months ago

      think we’re dead (we’re not!)

      Speak for yourself.

      • RuudMA
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        3311 months ago

        Ohh sorry to hear that. RIP

    • @neal
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      411 months ago

      Is there anyway you could also check fanaticus.social I am a mod on the Braves community there but I havent seen any new posts in days. If I go to the community via their instance, I show new posts.
      Example: Via Lemmy.World the newest post is 4 days old: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New Via Fanaticus.Social the newest post is 17 hours old: https://fanaticus.social/c/braves?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New

      I did notice they are on 0.18.2 where we are on 0.18.3. Is it as simple as that server needing to update?

      • @orangeNgreen
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        11 months ago

        I wanted to piggy back off of your comment. Have you learned anything about what’s going on? I’m a mod over at https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] and it seems posts haven’t federated for the better part of 2 weeks now.

        • @neal
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          211 months ago

          I’ve had no luck yet. My hope was it would be fixed in the next version of lemmy that was created a day or two ago. But that doesn’t seem to have fixed things.
          I’m considering just creating a 2nd account there until the issue is fixed.

          • @orangeNgreen
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            211 months ago

            Looks like they are getting addressed over there!

            • @neal
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              111 months ago

              Nice find! Glad it’s being worked out.

  • @[email protected]
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    4711 months ago

    I wonder if it is because of the various outages on both instance and the new “dead instance” detection, lemmy.ml has temporarily stopped receiving updates?

    The federation code now includes a check for dead instances which is used when sending activities. This helps to reduce the amount of outgoing POST requests, and also reduce server load.

  • @Zarxrax
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    2511 months ago

    I’m on Lemmy.world and still seeing new posts from Lemmy.ml

  • r00ty
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    They stopped sending my instance (kbin) anything from 20:00 (utc) on the day they upgraded until around midnight the next morning (4 hours or so). Just stopped dead then resumed as if nothing happened.

    I assumed they were slowly bringing federation back up and adding instances in batches. Maybe a related thing?

  • @JubilantJaguar
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    1511 months ago

    Slightly tangential, but why is “one of the two major Lemmy instances” using a TLD under the authority of the government of frigging MALI, a semi-failed state that has nothing whatsoever to do with Lemmy or its mission?!

    Come on internet, grow up and show some respect for internet architecture. TLDs are not just for jokes or decoration, they actually mean something.

    • @[email protected]
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      2011 months ago

      It’s because they were giving free domains for a long time. Then when they were recently being revoked, Dessalines paid for the domain to keep it (I’m guessing to avoid losing the current community+their m+l origins?)

    • @[email protected]
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      2011 months ago

      counterargument: TLDs have been a corporate-minded, US-centric joke since they were invented, the joke got even worse when ICANN wouldn’t hand over authority to the UN, worse still with the naked cash grab / branding exercise that was gTLDS (remember the shakedown that was .xxx and .sucks?) and now that .amazon belongs to a creepy oligarch’s predatory monopoly instead of the countries containing the ancient giant life-giving rainforest of the same name they may as well just change all TLDs to .clown and let DNS die in peace

    • Mark
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      911 months ago

      It’s a Marxist lenninist server, hence the ML. The developers of lemmy are m-ls.

  • @laxe
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    711 months ago

    On my lemmy.world account I see no content from lemmy.ml

  • @leraje
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    211 months ago

    I can see content from lemmy.one and lemmy.ml from communities I’m subscribed to.

    • CommunityLinkFixerBotB
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      -411 months ago

      Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

      • Hal-5700X
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        711 months ago

        LOL Read the room, bot.

  • @samokosik
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    11 months ago

    Why would be 2 biggest instances be defedarating from each other?

    This would be a terrible choice. For me it’s enough that some instances are down from time to time.

    • @[email protected]
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      2911 months ago

      Where does it say they’ve defedarated?

      Seems like the federation is just broken for some reason, maybe load issues on Lemmy.world

        • @[email protected]
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          11 months ago

          Title says content isn’t loading through and is effectively defedarated, not actually defedarated like the admins have made a specific decision to do that.

          • BitOneZero @ .worldOP
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            1011 months ago

            yha, it said “effectively defedarated” - anyway, I edited out the words entirely so there isn’t any more confusion.

    • phillaholic
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      It’s the Wild West out here. Different admins who have never worked together on this scale have to figure out how to work in digital society. It’s kind of like handing a libertarian the reins to government and watching how they slowly realize they have to govern instead of just complaining about those in power. It’s going to be messy, there are going to be blackouts, and at some point they’ll realize they can’t do everything they want and some users will complain that they sold out by blocking this or that.

      Just hang on for the ride.

      • @ttmrichter
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        311 months ago

        … like handing a libertarian the reigns to government …

        Reins. Handing the reins.