Every time Windows updates itself, my Linux disappears. Actually, it’s just hidden, only the boot menu was overwritten. You need a computer maintenance technician to make a new boot menu. I use a USB stick with a live Linux with automatic boot repair tools.

Recently, Windows has become resistant to Boot Repair Disk. Now I have to open computer firmware by tapping “Esc” right after power-up, then select “Boot options”, then “Linux”.


EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage – Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

We have functional, clunky open-source software that could easily be fitted for any purpose with the money we waste propping up foreign monopolies sabotaging us. Europe has taken a huge risk. I suspect bribery.

  • @[email protected]
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    74 hours ago

    Win11 bricked my linux install usb. Microsoft also colluded with intel to make intel cpus appear to perform better by sandbagging AMD cpus.

    Bill Gates may be a nice guy but his company has become trash.

  • HubertManne
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    Even when single booting efi is usually the thing making it sorta annoying. Take that out and the install is super smooth.

  • @[email protected]
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    I use a Dualboot with Windows 10 (there are unfortunately some very few games I couldn’t get to run with Linux, otherwise I had removed Windows a long time ago) but I never ran into this problem. Someone here wrote about efimgr, could be that I installed that by accident and this helps. I just followed some random tutorial back then.

    • Dragon Rider (drag)
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      Did you try the tinkering recommendations on protonDB? They’re great. Might be able to help you if you hadn’t tried them.

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        Hey, drag. I can tell you that most people trying to switch from Windows to Linux do not want to sit there after a long day at work and tinker with stuff to just get a game running.

        Yesterday, after a 10 hour shift, I got home and tried to get WeMod working on my openSUSE Tumbleweed. I got home at 6 in the afternoon, and had been up since 6 that morning. It wasn’t until 9 PM that I was finally able to get WeMod working with Mass Effect Legendary Edition, thanks to the WeMod-launcher team over on GirHub.

        That means I was only able to play for maybe an hour before bed just because I wanted something that is as simple as double clicking on Windows, and playing.

        Now, I understand I’m an edge case, because I want to use cheats on my games. That’s just the general attitude I’ve seen when trying to get people to switch over myself.

        “Why isn’t my program working?”

        “Oh, yeah. Programs for Windows don’t work as they should. You have to do x and y and then sprinkle a little bit of z in this config file over here on this other other program”

        “What the fuck? That’s stupid.”

        “No man. It’s really cool once you start to understand!”

        “Please help me get my Windows back. I don’t want to bother with this, I just want to play my game / use my program”

        Literal conversation I’ve had.

  • @[email protected]
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    FWIW dual booting from the same physical drive is never a good idea in my experience. Even Linux-Linux dual booting is just asking for problems when one of them updates the grub configs and messes it up for the other.

    Save yourself some sanity and move your Windows install to a new drive.

    • @[email protected]
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      One if my laptops only has 1 bay for a drive unfortunately. Currently going through the motion OP describes. Updating Windows and repairing the bootloader. It’s still MBR, not uefi, too.

    • @mildlyusedbrain
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      This is really the advice to take. I tried dual boot and went back to Windows due to it nuking grub.

      Tried again after buying a new SSD and haven’t had an issues since

    • biokernel
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      and when one drive fails you can boot from the other drive and repair your system

    • @jimmy90
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      this - there needs to be a standard for all installers to get behind

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    2812 hours ago

    Safest thing to do is run windows only in a VM or container with Linux as the host OS and pass the hardware required in. Windows actually runs better this way and can’t mess with your Linux install.

    • @Khanzarate
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      How does it run better?

      I’ve avoided it specifically for performance reasons, this is new to me, for one program that WINE doesn’t like.

      • @marcos
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        Linux manages disk access way better than Windows.

        But anything that depends on CPU, memory, or IO lattency will get slower.

      • CubitOom
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        I’ve not actually benchmarked it. Although others have and I couldn’t really tell you why but windows spends a lot less time and resources trying to manage itself when it’s in a VM or container. It’s just much snapier and even when passing in a GPU to play games it preforms well.

        • @TrickDacy
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          None of this has ever been my experience

      • @[email protected]
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        If you aren’t gaming, you don’t care about performance past giving CPU/RAM enough resources to VM.

        If you are multiplayer gaming and unwilling to give it up or be very tech savvy, VM isn’t an option.

        Well maybe, see: https://looking-glass.io/

        If you single player game, you just need pcie passthrough to your VM.

        • @Khanzarate
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          Those resources are the concern. Yes, a VM works fine, but works better than native windows? That’s where my question is.

          Also, I care a lot about performance if I’m running my system on a potato.

          • @GentriFriedRice
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            Expect at least a 20% performance hit with a hypervisor compared to bare metal

  • The Pantser
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    EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage – Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

    Well this solves your first issue, Microsoft is US based. So just uninstall windows.

    • @[email protected]
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      "Computers are like air conditioning.

      They become useless when you open windows"

      • some Finnish dude
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    You’ve gotten some good suggestions but let me add another one. Run Windows as a LE (Live Environment) from a USB drive. There’s ways to do this for both Windows 10 and Windows 11, just search for “Windows Live Environment”.

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    I agree with your post but I must ask - is that King Charles taking the wheel UEFI Boot partition?

    Thanks for the confirmations. It indeed seems to be King Charles taking the UEFI Boot Partition. Microsoft Monarchy at it again taking what belongs to the people.

    • @TehdastehdasOP
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      When I found the image, the file name claimed it’s him. Then Lemmy changed the file name.

    • @Kyrgizion
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      Was wondering the same thing. Also, that expression on his face…

    • Dragon Rider (drag)
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      Wait, King Charles is black?

      EDIT: the man in the picture has dark skin. Drag assumed he was black.

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        MOD: I assume this is a reference to something, but you will have to edit the reply to reflect that. It’s a huge stretch, and as written it comes of needlessly racist.

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    efibootmgr is your friend. Boot into linux and use it to set the boot records as you want, in the order that you want them.

    Also, I have heard from a bunch of people, that this can be mitigated by having separate EFI partitions for Linux and Windows. That means one EFI partition per physical drive. You can go as far as having the EFI partition on different media than the Linux install.

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      Someone claimed in another post that keeping them on the same drive prevents this but I’m not so sure

  • @HornedMeatBeast
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    I run Windows 10 on one NVME drive and Linux on a different one, but whenever I reinstall Windows it completely boffs my Linux installation.

    If I reinstall Linux then my Windows installation is gone.

    Took me a while but it seems that Windows is using my Linux NVME for its boot partition and so far the only way I’ve been able to avoid this is to unplug my Linux drive when reinstalling Windows.

  • @[email protected]
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    I haven’t been using Linux that long, but it hasn’t happened to me in the six months I’ve been dual booting 🤔

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      I use Windows 1-2 times per year, so I don’t know how often the boot-breaker comes. This has happened to me on four computers with Windows 10-11. Always with both Linux and Windows on the same drive, which is key, says another comment here.